big truck

Perfection double O. Loving the fit of the sweat.

Doogie, is that you?

I do like a balanced debate with plenty of rationale

Your post does not refer to standards of hygiene. If it did, I could see your point. Otherwise, it looks like a rather condescending view about people who buy N&F.

Not sure what was neg worthy about my post, big_truck. It's a misconception that you're not supposed to wash your jeans and this notion is perpetuated by the uninformed.

Neg rep for denim snobbery.

Ok, just for hog and Double O who clearly do not watch English trash TV

Back to the topic now...

I think engineer boots as a more casual wear is slightly at odds with the best look for such boots (all IMO of course). They should be worn with regular or fuller cut high rise jeans with a big cuff or a slimmer 1947 style onwards cut with the inseam quite short, at least too short for shoes or a small cuff making the inseam just too short. I don't think these are aesthetics that are easily achieved. There is a great pic somewhere in this thread of a pair of wesco boss and a very small cuff. I'll try and find out. Of course, you can find countless pics on rakuten of baggy-ish jeans and red wing engineers but the Japanese just have that knack of really showing off the clothes.

As for men's UGGs. Rylan Clark springs to mind.

No worries, I am excited for you!

hog, this may/may not help with fit. Size 34 p10. Have had them hemmed since so there cuffs are not as pronounced.

I wait, I wait, I wait, I wait

Well if my experience is of any use, I am a 35 now but at the time I had lost a bit of timber as had been travelling for 6 months and living on noodles, subway and hot dogs. So probably a 34 at that time. I tried on a few pairs and 34 was good, though some were a bit more snug than others (but wearable). I even tried a 33 and that was good but not the fit I was after. I also tried the cone denim version at Self Edge in 34. The thighs were tightest on the cone version. The rest were good.

So I went for p10 (I think) in 34. They needed a good hot wash to get some decent shrinkage. The waist has stretched out now to nearly 36, I dont think they ever got down to 34 when washed. Bear in mind that I tend to go for a 50s style fuller cut so would size up rather than size down.

The only other reference point I have for you is that I took size 36 in the old Denime XX type and have 36 in Roy RS1s, both slightly looser fits on me. If I did not wear a belt, they would sag.

You might want to consider the 33 but without you being able to try them, that's a bit of a hunch and it also depends on which denim. A 35 would have been too big for me. Much as I love Mister Freedom, the unpredictable nature of the sizing is mildly infuriating but then, I suppose, that is how it was for people in the old days.

Hog, I went for a darker denim but I also had the luxury of being at the store to see the different denims for the lot 44. The beauty of these jeans is probably in the history of the NOS fabric as opposed to manufacturing of the fabric itself. And with that comes uncertainty as to shrinkage, how they wear and so on.

Thanks Ray, no neg from me, we are of the same honourable profession. That courthouse looks spectacular. Believe it or not, nearly as good as the Employment Tribunal building in Liverpool.

oh maynard, if only you knew...

Great pics ray, what do you do for a living that sends you to courthouses?

I wonder how many times in this thread it has been stated that SE does not restock collabs. Once they're gone, they're gone. Sure it has been said in last few pages without even looking.

UKeno there's some stuff on the SE site already. Looks interesting.

http://blog.selfedge.com/2013/02/the-roy-sf01-special-fit-jeans.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+SelfEdge+(Self+Edge)

You could try the MF store, they do keep some of the old lines and thanks to DHL, there is quick gratification! My favourite jeans by the way. A second pair would not be a bad idea.

Indeed it does, all sorts of denim and fabrics, weights, LHT, shades of blue etc etc.

I think most of the ones online still are Cone.

superfuzz, on 26 February 2013 - 01:52 PM, said:

Does anyone have any experience with custom Wescos? I'm thinking about getting a pair and need to measure/trace my foot. Any advice?

Do it.

Don't forget paper and something to draw around your foot with. A pen or pencil will do, maybe a marker?

At this rate aho will be sizing up on his Devis contest jeans! Great pics as always.

After months of triple cuffs and prevarication I finally got my Lot 44 Californians off to Danny and he did a great job of hemming them and getting them back to me PDQ. Highly recommended.

And possibly exchange the RWs for those brogue looking shoes on the floor, single cuff the jeans, don't wear a hat indoors, lose the fingerless gloves and maybe the peacoat looks a lot better in that context? Not criticising, just discussing

Dry Bones dual prong garrison belt. Got it from SE when they first came out (2007 ish) and my only belt since then. Was tan at the start.

I received two copies too. Thanks to Lee. Will keep an eye out for the new model.