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Posted 14 June 2013 - 08:08 AM

It's currently working out well for them though it seems. I do not own any Viberg, and probably never will, as their pricing is simply madness to me. I get that smaller batch manufacture leads to higher costs, but their service boots in CXL is almost double the price of an equivalent Whites SD, why?
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Posted 14 June 2013 - 08:15 AM

Yet other small batch manufacturers manage to stay under the $500 mark.

I also don't get the allure of CXL on a working boot - or should I say the upcharge that it tends to result in. Nothing wrong with latigo!


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Posted 14 June 2013 - 08:42 AM

^^ smaller batches = higher costs. I get that and think that's right. But over the last years they got known better and surely produce a lot more so that argument isn't valid anymore (IMO).

 

It's just the usual way of market economy. Higher demand, higher prices. I've just the feeling they want to see how far they can push the prices. And up to now there are enough people buying them. I think the quality is just on the same level as it was some years ago, so that can't be a reason for higher prices.


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Posted 14 June 2013 - 10:01 AM

Viberg charge more because they know people will pay it. Why do people pay it? To get kudos on the internet possibly?


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Posted 14 June 2013 - 10:04 AM

HG - I prefer dress or latigo for a work boot also. CXL is a fashion leather to me.
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Posted 14 June 2013 - 10:22 AM

Viberg charge more because they know people will pay it. Why do people pay it? To get kudos on the internet possibly?

 

Yup.

 

If people spent a bit more time researching and investigating rather jumping on the same tired old bandwagons because they see everyone else doing it, it might just open their eyes to some far lesser known manufacturers and there'd be a bit more originality on here.

Speaking away from Viberg now and in general.

 

Never gonna happen though.

 

edit: some good examples of people going their own way of course. I speak in broad strokes.


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Posted 14 June 2013 - 10:44 AM

please give me a list of those lesser known manufacturers ;)

 

I would count White Kloud and Moto also to those lesser known brands but they are still pretty expensive

(but then White Kloud is an unfair comparison when it's more of an MTO with a custom made last)


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Posted 14 June 2013 - 11:15 AM

I think William Lennon are a good low priced manufacturer.<br />Thing is that Viberg are excellent boots but increasingly expensive with some odd lasts and a strong cult following.<br />I guess thats whats pushing the prices up - as BF says it's supply and demand.Oak Street Trench boots are nice also and fairly priced.However I guess they're not really comparative from a quality perspective?<br />Thin Finn has picked up some nice Vibergs (though I'm not sure the upturned toe would suit me) at very<br />good prices.
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Posted 14 June 2013 - 12:02 PM

Agreed. Lennon are a great manufacturer. Somewhat agricultural and clumpy perhaps for some but a proper working boot. Having met Libs, there's no pretense with this lot either.

 

Yeh Moto are a good example. Not surprising there's no WK stuff about though, with it being MTO and a visit to Goto needed to measure up!


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Posted 14 June 2013 - 12:15 PM

Price and cost are two different concepts, and we are all ruled by the balance between our means and our desire. I love White Kloud, and next year I will certainly pay a visit to Goto-San and pay him £500 for some Oxfords simply because I think his level of skill is above most other peoples.

 

For viable alternatives in an acceptable price bracket check out Sagara (I'm not trying to schill product here as I am currently not selling them), these guys make a quality of boot which is the match (if not a little neater and more polished) of the big North american brands, and it is made completely by hand. If they were a Japanese brand people would pay $1000 for them without blinking, if they were American $700.

 

Time to start looking outside of the box....


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Posted 14 June 2013 - 12:25 PM

Gav has a point here (although I find some of White Kloud stuff a bit over the top).

I had an eye on the Sagara Imperial (black) boots but went with the Grensons instead. The Grensons look nice but when I had them in my hand, I knew the Sagara would feel more substantial. One day I have to try the Sagara ones.

 

 

Another example from Japan could be the M43 Service Boots. You can get them from Buzz Rickson or MASH for the same price and look (probably done in the sam factory) or you can get them from Real McCoys, with the same look but AFAIK 30,000 Yen more expensive. Quality I can't judge but I doubt there is a huge gap between those


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Posted 14 June 2013 - 12:29 PM

I think people under value the importance of having a properly fitted / fitting boot and try and stuff their toes into anything because they believe the brand is giving them something back.

 

If you're going to get your feet personally measured and understood and a boot lasted individually for them then I'd suggest quite honestly this is £500 far better spent than on any other brand.

 

There are two pretty significant things in life that either provide comfort and support, or lead to imbalance, physical and physiological problems: your boots, and your bed. You're either in one or other of them pretty much most of the day.


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Posted 14 June 2013 - 12:29 PM

^ Agree with everyone above.

 

Mega: I got a pair of Sagara Boots, the Imperial IV that I bought a couple of years ago. They are truly stunning and I am really impressed with the craftmanship and quality. I´ve gotten several people comenting on them just by walking down the street.They cost me about $140. All handmade and Bagus the owner was extremely helpful with sizing and all.

 

The prices for Viberg are in my opinion outrageus. I can spend half the money on White's and get the same quality product, I got a pair of Horse Hide White's Semi Dress and I can´t imagine Viberg being better...for any reason.

 

I guess it is what it is, and people are entitled to buy and like whatever brand they want.

 

That´s just my 2 cents though...


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Posted 14 June 2013 - 01:01 PM

So, here's an example of why CXL doesn't have to come at a significant upcharge in product price.

 

One pair is CXL the other good old regular oil tanned hide from SB Foot.

 

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The difference in price?

 

$6.

 

 

 


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Posted 14 June 2013 - 01:09 PM

These get good reviews and are well priced
http://doursoux.com/...?id_product=495
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Posted 14 June 2013 - 01:10 PM

And made on a proper last too!

 

WWii Impressions won't like you posting that ;-)


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Posted 14 June 2013 - 01:10 PM

As do these
http://www.wwiiimpre...boondocker.html
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Posted 14 June 2013 - 01:10 PM

Is there a possibility that we are discussing this in the wrong thread.........
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Posted 14 June 2013 - 01:11 PM

Ha! Our posts crossed!
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Posted 14 June 2013 - 01:14 PM

This is the WWII Impressions rough out Service Shoe, as per the Doursoux link above.

 

http://www.wwiiimpre...myroughout.html

 

It's important to distinguish between the two as the US Navy service shoe a.k.a. the 'Boondocker' is occasionally misquoted as an M43 / rough out - it is in fact a quite separate shoe and not made on the same Munson last as the 1939 Service Shoe and subsequent derivatives.


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Posted 14 June 2013 - 01:17 PM

And clearly these are an absolute bargain

http://www.superdeni...?productid=3056
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Posted 14 June 2013 - 01:18 PM

LC4ever - yeh we're out of sync here!

 

This thread has taken a bit of a detour granted! But then again we'd get into bother for carrying on like this in the Shoes thread. That place is for knackered old bits of leather only. Sorry I mean well worn examples..

 

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Posted 14 June 2013 - 01:19 PM

Yes - is one of them a "normal shape" and the other the very slim shallow last?
Managed to get myself confused.
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Posted 14 June 2013 - 01:19 PM

And clearly these are an absolute bargain

http://www.superdeni...?productid=3056

 

Yeh, I'll just reach into my back pocket.


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Posted 14 June 2013 - 01:20 PM

I think I got the thread back on track with the Real McCoy deal from Superdenim
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Posted 14 June 2013 - 01:23 PM

Yes - is one of them a "normal shape" and the other the very slim shallow last?
Managed to get myself confused.

 

No no, sorry I wasn't directing that at you at all mate. I edited my post 'cos it looked like I was, just poor phrasing.

 

But.. in answer; the US Navy 'Boondocker' has a shallower profile toe box, more tapered in. All Army Service Shoe variations - high quarter / marching boot / russet leather / rough out / service shoe etc used the Munson last.

 

 

I think I got the thread back on track with the Real McCoy deal from Superdenim

 

hahaha :D


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Posted 14 June 2013 - 01:32 PM

No, no problem didn't take it as directed at me - what's confused me is the Viberg Boondockers are the
110 last, which is the wider, rounded shape and the Service boots seem to be the 2030 last
(the unwearable for normal feet one....)Seems like they have it the wrong way round?
This is amusing, particularly the rant from an ex Marine (or someone pretending to be one) in the comments section:
http://stevemcqueens...-his-boots.html

I'm meant to be working.
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Posted 14 June 2013 - 01:34 PM

The Boondockers are very pointy when compared to the M43 Service Boots.

 

WWII impressions claim to be the only one to sell those Boondockers, they were quite surprised that doursoux also sells them


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Posted 14 June 2013 - 01:41 PM

No, no problem didn't take it as directed at me - what's confused me is the Viberg Boondockers are the
110 last, which is the wider, rounded shape and the Service boots seem to be the 2030 last
(the unwearable for normal feet one....)Seems like they have it the wrong way round?
This is amusing, particularly the rant from an ex Marine (or someone pretending to be one) in the comments section:
http://stevemcqueens...-his-boots.html

I'm meant to be working.

 

 

LC4ever - agreed. And it seems incongruous to me too. They've for whatever reason gotten it the wrong way around, and it's why I don't like the Viberg Service Boot. Otherwise, sure. No problem.

 

edit - I've been on this damn forum all day!! Jesus, too late now to start any work.

I've read the McQueen rant before, but thanks for the reminder, it's brilliant.

 

BF, yes, and they thought it was a special make up from HH Brown under the Corcoran label just for them!

 

... I e-mailed Doursoux, in French as well, twice, never got a response.

 

Bloody Frogs.


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Posted 14 June 2013 - 01:43 PM

Another bargain boots store
http://www.dundasfootwear.com/products
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