HARDCORE SAVED MY LIFE

[bobbyhundreds]

And I'm not talkin about porn.
I didn't know where else to put this post, so I guess it belongs in "Supershopper"

Since so many of us on here actually have background in the hardcore scene, let's discuss. Favorite bands? 'zines? Labels? where you from? crews and city-wise? ETC ETC

I grew up in the Inland Empire/Orange County hardcore scene, favorite bands were Gorilla Biscuits, Bold, Flagman, Chain of Strength, Youth of Today, Bane, Kiss it Goodbye, 108, Fall Silent, Path of Resistance, Snapcase, Shelter, Zao, Botch, Harkonen, Trial, and Refused, to name a few.

Reppin' PK, which was responsible for members of Burial, daizee, Throwdown, Giveuntilgone, and other southern cali hardcore.

Lookin' back on those years, my favorite thing about the hardcore scene (besides the music) was the unity, direction, the drive and energy, the activism, and political awareness. Ok, I'll let someone else talk now.
thehundreds is huge.
www.thehundreds.com

[dontcaretoomuchforcrap]

WE KNOW YOU MEAN PORN.
fuck you

[bobbyhundreds]

AACK! images/icon_smile_blackeye.gif
thehundreds is huge.
www.thehundreds.com

[boystory]

harcore is so played right now.

[bobbyhundreds]

^ Is it? I completely lost touch with the "scene" a good 6 years ago. I do see a lot of these screamo bands on the circuit now that I stare at on MTV and go "heeeeyy, wait a minute... this looks familiar..."
thehundreds is huge.
www.thehundreds.com

[chimpanjesus]

hardcore is played? thats a pretty retarded statement to make. if you consider hawthorne heights and my chemical fucking romance hardcore yeah that shit is real played. those bands also have absolutely nothing to do with real hardcore.

[ABELnyc]

my lil baby exposure to 'NYHC' sorta...old school show: wetlands nyc. seven bucks. not really a hardcore show, but all of the acts turned their set into some whyle out, violence in the pit shit.

No Redeeming Social Value
The Goats
Shootyz Groove
Dog Eat Dog

great fucking show. some nerds might be all 'hey, they weren't hardcore, man, no way, dude...my bands were so much morerer hardcorererer...' but i say, when the shit is loud, you are going totally ape in the crowd, and the geetar stops and then jumps back on some CHU-CHUNK-CHU-CHUNK-CHU-CHUNK-BLLLLLLAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWW and heads is whylin out, that's a hardcore show.

but it never saved my life. not like Public Enemy did.
~multiflavored RodLavers~
http://abelnyc.com
ALPHA/BRAVO/ECHO/LIMA

[Yakboy Equals Nurturer]

Hardcore vs. 'ardkore? Minor Threat vs. Acen?

[miguel]

I guess I'm peripherally part of the current LA scene. Umm...as for bands, check out the Let's Get Rid of LA comp (though it's not hardcore) or read MRR scene reports. My fav local bands are Smogtown, Safe Inside, Alleged Gunmen, Orphans, and Street Trash, and Smut Peddlers. Probably more punk than hc tho.

[chimpanjesus]

if kylesa is playing near any of you anytime soon i strongly suggest going to that show. best live band ive seen in years. for those of you that live in l.a. go check out the blood brothers, big business and the plot to blow up the eifel tower on the 17th at the el rey.
Edited by chimpanjesus on Jun 11, 2005 at 01:41 AM

[genemachine]

although i'm kind of starting to lose touch with the scene, hardcore is my fucking life!

my alltime favourite bands would have to be

bad brains (absolute f'n best band ever)
cro-mags (hardest band ever)
life of agony
burn
supertouch
dag nasty
underdog
maximum penalty
merauder
biohazard

and most of the other classic nyhc stuff... you know what i'm talking about...

i can't really get into most of the current stuff, but there's one newer band that i totally back:

www.chargeband.com

also lots of classic bands play reunion shows this year like killing time, 108, bold etc...

[CL]

See I knew it.

I grew up smack dab in the middle of the 87' 88' straight edge HC scene. It did totally save my life. Kept me out of trouble, really gave me something to identify with as a 16 year old.

Saw Judge, Gorilla Biscuits, Insted, Bad Brains, AOD, Chain of Strength, Up Front, Supertouch, Burn....I could go on and on. (don't even get me started on the DC scene) shit was waayyy crazier then than now. Much smaller and shows in insane areas where you mixed with the locals and they weren't happy about it.

I'm not much of a scenester these days but I have some good friends that run labels and are in a few pretty prominant punk / HC bands. I've also done alot of work for bands over the years.

glad to see other kids with a similiar past on here.

[Teddy Boy Rocker]

cool to hear there are hardcore doods in here. i was a skin but grew up with the OCxHC scene in the 80s and hung out with guys from No For An Answer, Insted, Hard Stance, Head First, Half Off, etc. saw lots of the classics like Chain of Strength, Judge, Gorilla Biscuits, Swiz, etc etc. got out of hardcore by early 90s when it started to go metalcore....then got re-interested around 2000 with bands like Carry On that were bringing back the 80s sound.

nowadays i go to shows here and there...of the current crop i dig shit like Internal Affairs, Violent Minds, Knife Fight, Blue Monday, Champion...can't wait for the Carry On "reunion/official last gig" in July. crucial!

[Persia]

Yo Hundreds,
this is off topic but you ever get into the OC/IE SKA scene - like suburban rythm, buck-o-nine, voodoo glow skulls, back when no doubt had two singers. Ever listen to a band called Cadillac Tramps?
Don't let Mama slap you.

[bobbyhundreds]

^ Ya man. I saw them I think at the Barn a couple times opening for some other bands.

My boys were in Voodoo, Assorted Jellybeans, Skeletones, those bands..
thehundreds is huge.
www.thehundreds.com

[mama]

Oh shit. I grew up in West Covina and listened to all that. I saw Social D with Cadillac Tramps at the Barn, I think it was in like 92. The Skeletones..shit...I haven't heard them in a while.

I moved up to Chico after LA and hosted a SKA radio show and played all that OC shit. What's the name of the record store near Cal Fullerton...B somthing?

come to mama
http://www.mamaclothing.com
Edited by mama on Jun 11, 2005 at 02:02 PM

[Persia]

Oops..I logged in as my old lady.
Don't let Mama slap you.

[UnhappySupremeCustomer]

the only CD anyone will ever need,, Bane "it all comes down to this" saved my life twice... in my eyes, ten yard fight, shai hulud, champion, piebald.. the days of being sxe and going to shows in Boston.. hardcore is dead..
Looky here, it's just the way the cookie tear. Prepare to get hurt and mangled like Kurt Angle, rookie year.

[UnhappySupremeCustomer]

Every time I hear fashion nerds talking about hardcore, whether it be in fashion mags or Frank 151, noone acknowledges the mid-late 90's bands. Yeah yeah, bad brains blah blah cro blah mags blah, obviously legends. what about 25 ta life (one of the best NYHC bands ever) and the legendary Boston legacies of Ten Yard Fight and In My Eyes.. any fucking dork with a CBGB's shirt knows about the fucking cro-mags... shit..
Looky here, it's just the way the cookie tear. Prepare to get hurt and mangled like Kurt Angle, rookie year.

[genemachine]

i've seen all those bands you mentioned live and they all mean nothing to me. get a clue and listen to the bad brains. greatest band ever. i don't care if any dork knows about them. doesn't make the band any worse.

[Serge d Nimes]

My favorite HARDCORE bands:

Creed (#1)
Red Hot Chili Peppers (under the Bridge saved my life 3 times)
Rage Against the Machine
Korn
Audio Slave
Metallica

Carpe Denim!
http://images.andale.com/f2/110/104/6352519/1112885282366_selvage1_edited.JPG
Edited by Serge d Nimes on Jun 12, 2005 at 10:57 AM

[powerglov]

Serge come on.. that's not even funny.

[krush021]

-bad brains (i second them as one of the best bands ever)
-minor threat
-7 seconds
-sheer terror (another one of my favorites)
-4 walls falling
-beyond
-sick of it all
-ssd
-negative approach
-gorilla biscuits
-moondog
-cro-mags
-slap shot
-stars and stripes
-108

more recently (past 5 years or so):
-striking distance (best band to come out of dc since minor threat, imo)
-desperate measures
-suicide file
-count me out
-right brigade

RHFIV
Edited by krush021 on Jun 12, 2005 at 01:56 PM

[Teddy Boy Rocker]

Quote:


Oh shit. I grew up in West Covina and listened to all that. I saw Social D with Cadillac Tramps at the Barn, I think it was in like 92. The Skeletones..shit...I haven't heard them in a while.

I moved up to Chico after LA and hosted a SKA radio show and played all that OC shit. What's the name of the record store near Cal Fullerton...B somthing?


--- Original message by mama on Jun 11, 2005 02:00 PMBionic Records

[dezone]

imo botch was and still is on top of it, ahhh love those guys. haha, cro-mags! no ones mentioned them for ages. bad brains, sick of it all, minor threat, shai hulud, throwdown, shelter, unearth, darkest hour, bleeding through.

ive got lots of respect for the founders of this shit, but i like the direction the music is going in (well most of it). i was definitively a pantera loving, long hair rocking metal head prior getting into the hardcore. hearing some newer dare-i-say 'metal-core' acts makes me feel all warm inside.

[d]

I was big into hardcore some years ago, played in bands, booked shows etc.

For me:
Agnostic Front
Chokehold
Unbroken
Bad Brains
Morning Again
Indecision
Kill Your Idols
Converge
Grade
Burn
108
Cro Mags
Bad Brains
and so many more


Bobby, similar to you I also became very disconnected from the "scene" about 5 or 6 years ago. Its crazy to me to see kids I grew up with or hung out with on mtv all the time, not because they are some soft of celebrity but I would have never guessed that kids screaming into a microphone would have a huge commercial appeal.
Edited by d on Jun 13, 2005 at 07:16 AM

[urban sprawl]

-capnjazz
-gorilla biscuit
-still life
-nation on fire
-ordination of aaron
-quicksand
-shift
-julia
-battery
-ashes
-turning point
-karate
-hoover
-john coltrane

man, the good ol'days...

[dutchxoven]

i never knew so many kids were into the core on here.

i grew up in virginia beach area, so i went to VA beach, richmond, and DC shows.

-bladecrasher
-unbroken
-leeway
-no justice
-antidote
-the first step
-bad brains
-7 seconds
-avail
-underdog
-inside out
-judge
-alone in a crowd

bands that im into now
-last nerve
-down to nothing
-iron boots
.......and THEN i pulled out.

[Teddy Boy Rocker]

+1 on Iron Boots.

[FILTHY]

Any good hardcore ended in the 80's.
Nothing since then is worth listening to.
LESS IS ZERO

[Teddy Boy Rocker]

Quote:

Any good hardcore ended in the 80's.
Nothing since then is worth listening to.

--- Original message by FILTHY on Jun 13, 2005 04:52 PMi thought that throughout the 90s. tons of good shit since 2000

[ajchen]

dag bobby, you know heads in the skeletones? dr bones was a dope album....


3sixteen fabrications // new york city.
http://www.3sixteen.com
thas wassup
Edited by ajchen on Jun 13, 2005 at 06:13 PM

[krush021]

Quote:

i never knew so many kids were into the core on here.

i grew up in virginia beach area, so i went to VA beach, richmond, and DC shows.

-bladecrasher
-unbroken
-leeway
-no justice
-antidote
-the first step
-bad brains
-7 seconds
-avail
-underdog
-inside out
-judge
-alone in a crowd

bands that im into now
-last nerve
-down to nothing
-iron boots

--- Original message by dutchxoven on Jun 13, 2005 04:09 PMfuck...timmy (bladecrasher/no justice) is one of the wildest dudes ever. what's your name dutchxoven? i used to go to shows in the dc/rva/vabeach area, too. i don't know how i didn't add alone in the crowd or no justice to my list. consider them added.

RHFIV
Edited by krush021 on Jun 13, 2005 at 09:12 PM

[youremainturnedaway]

the worst is wehn wannabe princesses think they know hardcore

http://perryspizzaparlor.blogspot.com/2005/06/gun-check-silencer-check-bullets-check.html

[UnhappySupremeCustomer]

Quote:

Any good hardcore ended in the 80's.
Nothing since then is worth listening to.

--- Original message by FILTHY on Jun 13, 2005 04:52 PMConverge, the dedication, as the sun sets, backstabbers inc., BANE... all "post-hardcore" but they all blow agnostic front out of the water nontheless...
Looky here, it's just the way the cookie tear. Prepare to get hurt and mangled like Kurt Angle, rookie year.

[MONIKER]

cleanliness
Edited by MONIKER on Jul 12, 2005 at 01:23 PM

[shook ones]

"Converge, the dedication, as the sun sets, backstabbers inc., BANE... all "post-hardcore" but they all blow agnostic front out of the water nontheless..."

wow

[d]

Quote: Converge, the dedication, as the sun sets, backstabbers inc., BANE... all "post-hardcore" but they all blow agnostic front out of the water nontheless...


eh I don't know about that.

[wild_whiskey]

You may have sold out, but '94 never will.

[Teddy Boy Rocker]

http://www.howsyouredge.com/edgebreak/index.php

breaking edge. get into it.

[alexbigman]

urban sprawl....nice list of bands....hella old emo shit hahahah..ordination & julia

i'm in two hardcore bands...one in san diego and san francisco

www.myspace.com/fightfair - san diego

www.myspace.com/seeingmeansmore - san francisco

i'm 19 and i've been into the hardcore scene since i was around 15....

we're all fashioncore fags


Edited by alexbigman on Jun 14, 2005 at 02:22 PM

[bobbyhundreds]

yo Moniker, thats my hood yo. my boys ran the Barn all those years before it blew out.

Showcase in Corona was the other joint.
thehundreds is huge.
www.thehundreds.com

[CL]

teddy boy.
I'm on that list!

pretty funny

[dutchxoven]

Quote:


Quote:

i never knew so many kids were into the core on here.

i grew up in virginia beach area, so i went to VA beach, richmond, and DC shows.

-bladecrasher
-unbroken
-leeway
-no justice
-antidote
-the first step
-bad brains
-7 seconds
-avail
-underdog
-inside out
-judge
-alone in a crowd

bands that im into now
-last nerve
-down to nothing
-iron boots

--- Original message by dutchxoven on Jun 13, 2005 04:09 PMfuck...timmy (bladecrasher/no justice) is one of the wildest dudes ever. what's your name dutchxoven? i used to go to shows in the dc/rva/vabeach area, too. i don't know how i didn't add alone in the crowd or no justice to my list. consider them added.


--- Original message by krush021 on Jun 13, 2005 09:10 PMyea..timmy green is nuts..hes chilled out a bunch now, but ive been a fair few fights b/c of that cunt. haha...like hanging out somewhere and he just throws a punch at someone, and before i know it he has a chair in his hands ready to slam it on someones face, and then b/c im standing next to him i have to fight someone else...its fucked. haha

i swear bladecrasher and no justice brought it out of anyone.....like full on, just shit your pants.

oh yes...i forgot to add warzone to my list.

...but yea, my names brian johnston...im actually from newport news. they called me bad news brian...whats your name krush021? where ya live now? ...im in greensboro NC.

.......and THEN i pulled out.
Edited by dutchxoven on Jun 14, 2005 at 03:58 PM

[MONIKER]

cleanliness
Edited by MONIKER on Jul 12, 2005 at 01:23 PM

[stickykrylon]

ok, well here are some of my old faves.. yeah, once a punk always a fucking punk..

angelhair
portraits of past
honeywell
torches to rome
shotmaker
drift

no go check the new Common CD - it's dope.
dig.

[krush021]

dutchxoven- from richmond, rob forman.
RHFIV

[Serge d Nimes]

isn't there a hesher or speedfreak forum for this shit? music that only caters to the emotions of rage and anger are for either kids or simpletons. EVOLVE
Carpe Denim!
http://images.andale.com/f2/110/104/6352519/1112885282366_selvage1_edited.JPG

evolve? i'm not sure if you're being a dickhead on purpose, but i think it's obvious that hardcore has played a big part in alot of our (supertalkers) lives (even though we didn't know it before this thread). it sounds like most of us aren't so much into it anymore...just getting a li'l nostalgic. it's not like we're talking about the "sick pit" or "killer mosh" at last night's hatebreed show. nor about the "faggot" we beat down for bumping into us. i mean, you didn't have to click on the link. maybe supershopper isn't the right arena for this topic, but i don't see how it's different from talking about movies or anything else. it's just conversation. personally, i think that stereotyping is for either kids or simpletons.

[krush021]

evolve? i don't know if you're trying to be a dickhead, but it's obvious (after reading this thread) that hardcore has played some part in a lot of our (supertalkers) lives. i mean, don't get all fucking uptight...it's just conversation. it doesn't seem that most of us are really involved in it anymore...we're just getting a li'l nostalgic. i'm terribly sorry if you went to some show and got clobbered by some mean harcore kids, but personally, i think stereotyping is for either kids or simpletons.
RHFIV

[krush021]

word up!
RHFIV

[Serge d Nimes]

I can see being nostalgic about it and that is cool, but comments like "hardcore saved my life?" Come on, are you 14? When I was in the Oakland punk scene I saw OBHC smashing heads in and shooting guns at warehouses, that shit is not cool. A bunch of pissed off drug addicts (and vegans!) determined to ruin every party they could find!
Carpe Denim!
http://images.andale.com/f2/110/104/6352519/1112885282366_selvage1_edited.JPG

[deim23]

c'mon guys...
we walk together, why can't we rock together??images/icon_smile_wink.gif

*marks x on hand*
http://l00000.myspace.com/00000/53/93/603935_m.JPG
"Today's peacock tomorrow's feather duster. "

[bobbyhundreds]

Quote: "hardcore saved my life?" Come on, are you 14? When I was in the Oakland punk scene I saw OBHC smashing heads in and shooting guns at warehouses, that shit is not cool. A bunch of pissed off drug addicts (and vegans!) determined to ruin every party they could find!

Yes, I'm 14. Actually, okay 13, but going on 14.
Look, I guess you weren't down with the hardcore set in the East Bay - oh well.
But for many of us, that's our background, and it did a lot for us in the long run.
If you grew up punk, then I guess I can say the same thing for the gutter punk crust kids shootin up outsde the clubs, or the skins who ruined many good shows, or the blah blah blah. How're you gonna go and knock an entire music subculture based on some knuckleheads who ruined your parties?

I had a lot of homeys in OBHC, and I spent a lotta time helpin out at the Gilman, and posting up with some really down hardcore kids from that neck of the woods. If you got your face kicked in by some militant cat, that sucks. But damn, you're making some crazy broad generalizations there.

oh, and i didnt even comment on this quote yet:
Quote: music that only caters to the emotions of rage and anger are for either kids or simpletons. EVOLVE
Didn't you just say you had punk background? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't remember Punk being rooted in flowers, tree-hugging, and care bears.


thehundreds is huge.
www.thehundreds.com
Edited by bobbyhundreds on Jun 16, 2005 at 12:10 AM

[alexbigman]

fuck yah stickykrylon

my sn is portraitsofpastx

[Serge d Nimes]

I guess I grew up! And a lot of Berkeley/ punks punks are hippies. The origins of punk are not in violence and rage, they are in DIY music and anti-establishment.

Carpe Denim!
http://images.andale.com/f2/110/104/6352519/1112885282366_selvage1_edited.JPG
Edited by Serge d Nimes on Jun 16, 2005 at 09:16 AM

[xbombx]

Im from Korea and in Boston right now. Since 2001, I got into hardcore here.

The First step, bane, have heart, verse, etc.. Lots of great bands are still active around the states. I love to go to the shows, to take a picture of them, to see nice people in the scene.

It's really nice to hear you guys in this board.

[youwish]

Hardcore sucks! The late 80's had a lot of good bands and since then not much has happened that's new and appealing. Since getting into hardcore I've met too many shitty people, seen tons of terrible fights, listened to some god aweful bands and delt with people thinking they are the bees knees because they know this band or have these jeans on or got into the show for free. I had some good times going places (mostly the east coast) and met a few amazing people who are still my good friends.

Straight edge only exists cause fuck ups need some place to go so they can feel cool too. Everybody needs somewhere to fit in.

Only bands in HC right now I know are friends bands. Otherwise, I don't check it out anymore.
Razzle Dazzle, Mental, Cold World, Mind Eraser, LOJ and Violent Minds

If I lived somewhere other than Detroit I'd probably feel differently.


It takes strength to be gentle and kind.

Edited by youwish on Nov 13, 2005 at 07:54 PM

[canice]

i guess all the fashion conscious from the b9 have migrated to superfuture or something... i didn't know so many people here listened to hardcore.

i live in toronto, and have absolutely nothing to be disillusioned with right now - fucked up, career suicide, urban blight, terminal state, gunnar hansen, dirty black summer, haymaker reformed for the 5987810th time, the kill decibel. outside of here, however, i'm not really so impressed... everything is diluted.
Edited by canice on Nov 13, 2005 at 08:57 PM

[oakoner]

I hardly ever post here but I think that I should in this thread...
hardcore was huge for me growing up, it really gave me something to do and I have to agree with the thought that it may have saved my life.
the bands that I have listed to over the years have been stuff like
judge
inside out
a bunch of youth crew and rev stuff
moving up in time to 90s era
drift
one eyed god prophecy
union of uranus
his hero is gone
acrid
fall silent
(its wierd...my memory is all over the place right now so I cant remember it all in order)
but I started listening to more fringy stuff about 10 years ago
angel hair
portraits of past
the vss
camera obscura (sd)
get hustle
and it just keeps going evolving devolving I always break out the classics and mix them into what I listen to now. its hard to get away from something that was such a big part of your life.
Ill still throw on some bad brains or some fucking minor threat and follow it up with king crimson then ian brown, its like you could take the kid out of hardcore but you cant take the hardcore out of the kid.

[onemancult]

This conversation depends on your definition of hardcore so much that it is futile to try to have it in the first place. There are tons of scenes that are still as vibrant as ever that don't involve guys in girl's jeans. For fuck's sake, we've got guys who're more mindful of their next Dior Homme piece than the next 7 inch they're gonna get talking about hardcore, give me a fucking break.

[haptronic]

There are guys from the olden days who think '81-85 until emo came out Dag Nasty , is the only hardcore.

I used to say i was into hardcore, but mainly i listened to big black and the butthole surfers , and some flying nun stuf [not the bands that influenced Pavement though].

When I heard Laibach i said i was into industrial.

Hardcore wasn't really a style of music, as far as i remember it.

http://xs50.xs.to/pics/05413/teisco.gif
Edited by haptronic on Nov 13, 2005 at 11:13 PM

[r_mutt]

ohh man... the gilman

[partytaco]

real hardcore...

the FIX
Negative Approach
Deep Wound

etc....all the early 80's DC(Dischord)/Detroit(TouchandGo)/Boston(X-Claim)/LA(SST)...none of that metal jockcore shit from the 90's trying to pass as hardcore.

[Teddy Boy Rocker]

http://www.internalaffairshc.com/

good guys, great band

LA represents some good 'core

[telluride11]

cro mags you cocksmoking faggots
i started something

[Bronson]

Quote:

real hardcore...

the FIX
Negative Approach
Deep Wound

etc....all the early 80's DC(Dischord)/Detroit(TouchandGo)/Boston(X-Claim)/LA(SST)...none of that metal jockcore shit from the 90's trying to pass as hardcore.
--- Original message by partytaco on Nov 14, 2005 05:04 PMEXACTLY!
Hardcore. Not Metal.

[drew exclusive]

Quote:

Im from Korea and in Boston right now. Since 2001, I got into hardcore here.

The First step, bane, have heart, verse, etc.. Lots of great bands are still active around the states. I love to go to the shows, to take a picture of them, to see nice people in the scene.

It's really nice to hear you guys in this board.
--- Original message by xbombx on Nov 13, 2005 07:19 PMfuck all those bands. just sayin
http://www.henricodoctors.com/cpm/RichmondSkylineNight.jpg

[youwish]

warzone and the cromags rule.
It takes strength to be gentle and kind.

[shook ones]

id like to backup "cro-mags you cocksmoking faggot"

[gunpwdr]

http://www.westernaddiction.com/

Give them a listen.

[miguel]

DUDEZ I AM USEING GOOGLE VIDEO 2 LEARN TO FLOORPUNCH AND TWO-STEP BEFORE I SEE CHAMPION AND BETRAYED IN DECEMBER. ALSO I AM GETTING SOME NIKES AND A FUCKING AWESOME JUDGE PARODY SHIRT.

[drew exclusive]

miguel you post on b9?
http://www.henricodoctors.com/cpm/RichmondSkylineNight.jpg

[canice]

everyone with a b9 username needs to fess up. i'm spacemonkey.

[drew exclusive]

haha i dont actually post on b9, ive lurked for almost 4 years now though
http://www.henricodoctors.com/cpm/RichmondSkylineNight.jpg

[drew exclusive]

im friends with mayo and wilson if that counts
http://www.henricodoctors.com/cpm/RichmondSkylineNight.jpg

[Teddy Boy Rocker]

used to post sparingly on B9 a couple years ago....havent even looked at it in over a year

the best threads were the ones with NOODZ

[Teddy Boy Rocker]

Quote:

DUDEZ I AM USEING GOOGLE VIDEO 2 LEARN TO FLOORPUNCH AND TWO-STEP BEFORE I SEE CHAMPION AND BETRAYED IN DECEMBER. ALSO I AM GETTING SOME NIKES AND A FUCKING AWESOME JUDGE PARODY SHIRT.
--- Original message by miguel on Nov 17, 2005 12:12 AMchampions a *yawn* but Betrayed are f'ing great....saw em play a mini set at the Carry On gig last summer. they totally remind me of Verbal Assault, One Step Ahead etc..all that good melodic hxc from the late 80s

[purest]

NERDCORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.geocities.com/scholasticdeth/index.html

http://www.louderthanhell.com/scholastic_deth/

[damnIam]

Kid, if yer 13 YOU GOT NO BACKGROUND.

[xbombx]

betrayed is so awesome.
Really carry on-like. I'd love to see them playing live someday.

[Pancho]

Loved it and lived it for a long time.
Grew up with 7 seconds shows.
DK,Black Flag, X, Circle Jerks,JFA, Corrosion of conformity,Crucifucks
Minor threat,Bad Brains, Just a few of the many,many gigs I remember.
Good times,Def some SFSKINS that caused shit but just a blip on the
radar. The straight edge seen kept a lot of my friends in line but everyone
mixed it up and nobody was being judged.
Seeing people shoot up back stage at a Dr. Know gig at 16 was an eye
opener not to mention guns and shit but a life sheltered is not a life lived.
right and wrong were always obvious.

[ddohnggo]

b9 omg
http://photos.yafro.com/pics3/i/20050322/06/2/f/4/2f4ea196d8c2ab3ff35a05e7019ca2d10_full.jpg

http://img81.exs.cx/img81/3325/breakin0rv.jpg

http://im.draugiem.lv/img/26/262422/large_2005032222422545558.jpg

[canice]

please don't infect other boards with the b9's stupidity.

[Intermission]

Those pictures are lame.

yo!
Edited by Intermission on Nov 20, 2005 at 04:19 AM

[adsurgo]

Quote:

please don't infect other boards with the b9's stupidity.
--- Original message by canice on Nov 19, 2005 12:57 AM.

[youwish]

I used to post quiet a while ago until I lost my pw.
it was like detroit bird or dabestnest or something.

b9 is garbage..
the best is when the guys from drugxtest still posted and we made a bunch of starwars fake names and posted good quotes.
It takes strength to be gentle and kind.

[Teddy Boy Rocker]

Quote:

I used to post quiet a while ago until I lost my pw.
it was like detroit bird or dabestnest or something.

b9 is garbage..
the best is when the guys from drugxtest still posted and we made a bunch of starwars fake names and posted good quotes.

--- Original message by youwish on Nov 19, 2005 11:37 AMhaha

DOWN THE STAIRS!!

[poly800rock]

anyone here get down with the proletariat from boston/fall river? best band ever, taang released their discography a few years back. good thing i have 2 copies of soma holiday
tons of stuff for sale now on ebay: corpus, Rag & Bone, Helmut Lang, levi's premium, Gap, vintage etc.
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[shagnscoob]

its clear that the hardcore my friends and i listen to is from a different generation than most of the people in this thread. not that either is better, i wouldnt know...

our favorites are--

converge
dillinger escape plan
cursed
breather resist
american nightmare
mikoto
takaru
coalesce
circle takes the square

some Los Angeles bands that we love:

http://www.myspace.com/stricken <-- i HIGHLY reccomend them.
http://www.myspace.com/igotshotintheface
Edited by shagnscoob on Jan 9, 2006 at 12:13 PM

[obsessis]

moshzilla rules

[brokenboards]

ahh takaru is sooo sick. have you heard burial year yet?


the problem with hardcore as of ohh say the past 5-10 years or so is that there is too much classification going on. bands tour their asses off, put out records left and right, etc. but don't exactly sound like minor threat so they get pushed into this realm of obscurity. too many subgenres exist. there are way too many kids still complaining about how it was better in the 80s.

"if you want it '88 again then build a fucking time machine."
two hands working can do more than a thousand clasped in prayer.

[onemancult]

dillinger n' coalesce sound more like grindcore bands than hardcore bands,
and grindcore and hardcore are two totally different things, even now that
genre distinctions are super-blurry.

there's a difference between
hardcore punk and metalcore, too.

but anyway, no need for spurring some more circular arguments.

[cocaine blues]

I really like this topic. Does anyone else have a last.fm account?

http://www.last.fm/user/liquidamerica/
images/icon_smile_cool.gif stay off that whiskey, and let that cocaine be. images/icon_smile_cool.gif

[canice]

some of these bands mentioned are so far off the mark.

http://www.last.fm/user/canice

[Hemidart]

I got into the LA punk scene in 1979ish. Hardcore is all about American harcore from the early 80's. Black Flag, Gang Green, Bad Brains, Red Cross, JFA, Circle Jerks, Circle One, Dead Kennedy's, Sin 34, 45 Grave...etc. No fuckin flowers huggin, straight edge crap. Been up to SF many times in the day. Maximum Rock and Roll....whatever. Well Crucifix and DK was some good SF shit.

< Lurch ~ Los Angeles Death Squad.
Edited by Hemidart on Jan 9, 2006 at 03:59 PM

[cocaine blues]

oh & I'm revolution summer on b9. I hate that board, but it compels me.
images/icon_smile_cool.gif stay off that whiskey, and let that cocaine be. images/icon_smile_cool.gif

[cornbluth]

the new video for SOME GIRLS is in the video section of this site:


www.adamgrabarnick.com

[youwish]

HC talk on this board is a bummer.

Unless you're trying to bring back YOT shirts over hoods to match your dunks,
Keep it to lambgoat, b9, trustkill or whatever you're into.
It takes strength to be gentle and kind.

[poly800rock]

Quote:


I got into the LA punk scene in 1979ish. Hardcore is all about American harcore from the early 80's. Black Flag, Gang Green, Bad Brains, Red Cross, JFA, Circle Jerks, Circle One, Dead Kennedy's, Sin 34, 45 Grave...etc. No fuckin flowers huggin, straight edge crap. Been up to SF many times in the day. Maximum Rock and Roll....whatever. Well Crucifix and DK was some good SF shit.

< Lurch ~ Los Angeles Death Squad.
Edited by Hemidart on Jan 9, 2006 at 03:59 PM
--- Original message by Hemidart on Jan 9, 2006 03:56 PMyou should check out the proletariat, they're from 79-83 boston circa boston not la. best band ever.
tons of stuff for sale now on ebay: corpus, Rag & Bone, Helmut Lang, levi's premium, Gap, vintage etc.
http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZtriggerkid

[botch]

lambgoat > b9 board

[poly800rock]

Quote:

HC talk on this board is a bummer.

Unless you're trying to bring back YOT shirts over hoods to match your dunks,
Keep it to lambgoat, b9, trustkill or whatever you're into.

--- Original message by youwish on Jan 9, 2006 05:21 PMjust bought an illegal and que Los Crudos shirt not too long ago...rock it all the time.
tons of stuff for sale now on ebay: corpus, Rag & Bone, Helmut Lang, levi's premium, Gap, vintage etc.
http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZtriggerkid

[shagnscoob]

my friends love SOME GIRLS.

whoever said dillinger and someone else was grindcore--> yeah maybe haha

canice --> i cant tell if you dont like hardcore, or if you dont like bands mentioned

and i havent heard the burial year yet, are they like takaru?

[youwish]

New some girls stinks. xo skeletons is way hotter.
It takes strength to be gentle and kind.

[canice]

i like hardcore. i hate (most) hardcore kids.

[shagnscoob]

Quote:

i like hardcore. i hate (most) hardcore kids.
--- Original message by canice on Jan 9, 2006 06:05 PMbecause of their attitudes or because they call the music they listen to hardcore?

[onemancult]

I didn't say they were grindcore, I said their sound is stylistically closer to grindcore than hardcore.

Coalesce started off as a much more hardcore punk influenced band but by the time of their split with grindcore legends Napalm Death, they'd pretty much become too heavy, discordant, and into repetitive riff patterns to qualify as a hardcore band.

Dillinger Escape Plan may incorporate elements of hardcore, but the tempo changes and feel is much closer to grindcore and metal than punk rock and hardcore.

Everyone seems keen these days on getting their hardcore bands and their metal bands mixed up and it makes me think of times when hesher dudes would love nothing more than to beat the fuck out of hardcore kids.

How funny is it that the hot ticket right now is growing your hair kinda long, dressing like a girl, and playing this wonky-ass mix of metal and 90's hardcore?

burial year is sean and a few other guys from takaru's new band. they are going on some ridiculously long tour soon so check them out.

but i agree, i think we try keep the argument of "who thinks what is hardcore" at bay otherwise its just going to get obnoxious.

to me hardcore/punk is and never was about a band having a certain sound. its more or less a set of ethics/beliefs/whatever that shape an individual. kids can and do identify the NRA loving, republican preaching garbage that is Embrace Today as hardcore (yeah i'm sure they've toned down a hair). but hard-working and strongly DIY rooted bands like the aforementioned Takaru will get slapped with some other lame label and ignored by all the "true to the 'core" crowd. not trying to fuel any fires here so nobody take too much offense to what i say.

[andrewfuncrew]

Quote:

i like hardcore. i hate (most) hardcore kids.
--- Original message by canice on Jan 9, 2006 06:05 PMagreed!
You've got nothing but hatred!

[andrewfuncrew]

Quote:

-capnjazz
-gorilla biscuit
-still life
-nation on fire
-ordination of aaron
-quicksand
-shift
-julia
-battery
-ashes
-turning point
-karate
-hoover
-john coltrane

man, the good ol'days...
--- Original message by urban sprawl on Jun 13, 2005 02:44 PMemo!
You've got nothing but hatred!

[shagnscoob]

Quote:

I didn't say they were grindcore, I said their sound is stylistically closer to grindcore than hardcore.

Coalesce started off as a much more hardcore punk influenced band but by the time of their split with grindcore legends Napalm Death, they'd pretty much become too heavy, discordant, and into repetitive riff patterns to qualify as a hardcore band.

Dillinger Escape Plan may incorporate elements of hardcore, but the tempo changes and feel is much closer to grindcore and metal than punk rock and hardcore.

Everyone seems keen these days on getting their hardcore bands and their metal bands mixed up and it makes me think of times when hesher dudes would love nothing more than to beat the fuck out of hardcore kids.

How funny is it that the hot ticket right now is growing your hair kinda long, dressing like a girl, and playing this wonky-ass mix of metal and 90's hardcore?
--- Original message by onemancult on Jan 9, 2006 06:57 PMwell im new to this hardcore thing relatively. a lot of the people here have obviously been listening to it WAY longer than i have. it doesnt really bother me when people generalize about hardcore, because a lot of it IS really similar. people could easily argue all day about whos hardcore whos grindcore whos metalcore and all that stuff.

what does bother me is when people say that any kid with straight black hair is 'emo'. basically any association with crying, depression, suicide, love, and basically any kind of antisocial behavior being labeled as 'emo' pisses me off. the word 'emo' is SO overplayed in the worst and misunderstood way.

i dont admit to knowing much about emo, but i know hawthorne heights is not. thats like, powerpop trash. i know enough to say 'fuck you' when someone calls me emo just because i wear tight pants, or because i listen to blood brothers. its rediculous what people will label as 'emo' without any knowledge of where it started.

edit-- not that anyone did that on here, im talking about what ive experienced with people around me.
Edited by shagnscoob on Jan 9, 2006 at 08:03 PM

[UsVersusThem]

^^ youre just going to have to get used to it cuz the "hardcore" fashion scene hijacked the emo look years ago and thats just how it is. youre being called it cuz thats what we've been calling kids that dress like that since it started getting popular. its not your fault, but just dont assume it has to do with the music. im also not talking crap...just stating the facts.

anyways, nothing irks me more than people calling what most of the popular bands now "hardcore". mostly the grindcore kids. its like all of a sudden in the 90's bands started playing metal but kept calling it hardcore. its like calling dancehall raggae. i was born in 81 so i wasnt old enough to appreciate much of the original hardcore and punk until i was older (my older brother was a punk so i always heard different stuff from him- dr know, gbh, dk, bad brains, exploited, minor, black flag, cromags, dayglo abortions, etc), but to me that stuff means more than any newer stuff, even the 90's stuff. lately all ive noticed is that the hardcore scene is mainly overrun with people interested in climbing a social ladder and klobbering people (k was intentional).

[shagnscoob]

Quote:

^^ youre just going to have to get used to it cuz the "hardcore" fashion scene hijacked the emo look years ago and thats just how it is. youre being called it cuz thats what we've been calling kids that dress like that since it started getting popular. its not your fault, but just dont assume it has to do with the music. im also not talking crap...just stating the facts.

anyways, nothing irks me more than people calling what most of the popular bands now "hardcore". mostly the grindcore kids. its like all of a sudden in the 90's bands started playing metal but kept calling it hardcore. its like calling dancehall raggae. i was born in 81 so i wasnt old enough to appreciate much of the original hardcore and punk until i was older (my older brother was a punk so i always heard different stuff from him- dr know, gbh, dk, bad brains, exploited, minor, black flag, cromags, dayglo abortions, etc), but to me that stuff means more than any newer stuff, even the 90's stuff. lately all ive noticed is that the hardcore scene is mainly overrun with people interested in climbing a social ladder and klobbering people (k was intentional).
--- Original message by UsVersusThem on Jan 9, 2006 09:50 PMwhen people call my friends and i 'emo' i can see the connection between that and hardcore and stuff. most of us listen to sunny day real estate and stuff like that any way. i dont really blame them for that. but theres A LOT of bullshit associations, completely aside from the way we dress and the music we listen to.

i think what happens with music is that it grows and changes a lot overtime, but it came from somewhere. which is why a lot of today's "hardcore" is NOT what most of the people on this board call "hardcore". It all came from the same place, but I call most of this stuff hardcore punk, as opposed to just hardcore. But if you ask me, it's all just relative, depends who you ask, I don't think its really fair to give a certain group a really concrete title, because your bound to offend or disagree with someone.

[drew exclusive]

all of you are so wrong it makes me sick
http://www.henricodoctors.com/cpm/RichmondSkylineNight.jpg

[shagnscoob]

Quote:

all of you are so wrong it makes me sick

--- Original message by drew exclusive on Jan 10, 2006 12:10 AMgod forbid people have opinions

[adsurgo]

these arent opinions. they are wrong ideas. you obviously dont know what drew is talking about.

[shagnscoob]

Quote:

these arent opinions. they are wrong ideas. you obviously dont know what drew is talking about.
--- Original message by adsurgo on Jan 10, 2006 12:44 AMenlighten me :)

[UsVersusThem]

Quote: these arent opinions. they are wrong ideas. you obviously dont know what drew is talking about.

we obviously didnt take it as seriously as him either....

[brokenboards]

shags....burial year is sean and a few other members from takaru. they are embarking on a ridiculously long US tour in the next few months so i'm sure they will be around your area soon. definitely check them out.

i typed up a mini-rant yesterday but it didn't post for some reason. to me, those out there that identifiy hardcore only with a certain 'sound' are the ones so far off the mark. bands like the aforementioned takaru bled from nearly ever fiber of their being the DIY punk/hardcore mentality exhibited by all the 80's heroes, but just because they didn't sound like minor threat or whatever else b9 kids jock, all the 'true to the core' kids get thrown off of their high horses when somebody calls them 'hardcore'.
two hands working can do more than a thousand clasped in prayer.

[onemancult]

^
that's the thing. it really is about mentality, approach, lifestyle, heart, etc.

i personally spit on all the bands that are called hardcore and don't embody
the spirit, especially when it's some fifth rate cut-copy floorpunch 'til
your wrists break thugcore band- stuff that people a part of that scene today
would call REAL HxC.


oops, did i just mention another subgenre? is this going to stir shit up again?

[poly800rock]

we should subgenre this topic

79-88 (NY, BOSTON, LA, UK)

89-Present (crap)
tons of stuff for sale now on ebay: corpus, Rag & Bone, Helmut Lang, levi's premium, Gap, vintage etc.
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[greentalks43]

Shai Hulud...
"Patience, both we and our words are overproduced by influence"

[poly800rock]

Quote:

shags....burial year is sean and a few other members from takaru. they are embarking on a ridiculously long US tour in the next few months so i'm sure they will be around your area soon. definitely check them out.

i typed up a mini-rant yesterday but it didn't post for some reason. to me, those out there that identifiy hardcore only with a certain 'sound' are the ones so far off the mark. bands like the aforementioned takaru bled from nearly ever fiber of their being the DIY punk/hardcore mentality exhibited by all the 80's heroes, but just because they didn't sound like minor threat or whatever else b9 kids jock, all the 'true to the core' kids get thrown off of their high horses when somebody calls them 'hardcore'.

--- Original message by brokenboards on Jan 10, 2006 01:19 PMwhat are b9 kids?
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[giantreptile]

this "what is hardcore" or "what is punk" crap cracks me up. it seems every 4 years or a so a new generation of scenesters comes to a point where they decide that they are the experts, and then what to define what has been such a large part of their life through high school and college. then us older folks sit back and laugh, because we all went through the same phase years before. lastly, what this has to do with the supershopping forum, i'll never know.

[obsessis]

b9 kids = bridge9 kids

hardcore message board

[poly800rock]

i got this shirt not too long ago, sweet...

http://i7.ebayimg.com/02/i/05/7b/87/d7_1.JPG

tons of stuff for sale now on ebay: corpus, Rag & Bone, Helmut Lang, levi's premium, Gap, vintage etc.
http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZtriggerkid
tried to get this shirt, but not my size...

wish havoc records still made them!
images/icon_smile_sad.gifhttp://home.tampabay.rr.com/ldearing/images/lenbay0106/t33.jpg


Edited by poly800rock on Jan 13, 2006 at 09:17 PM

[obsessis]

i bought an X rated swatch watch for 80 and sold it for 160.

[miguel]

oh yessss! the X SWATCH!
I thought they were dead, but every time I see 7 generations or whatever, half the kids are wearing them.

also, it's amazing how that FSU kid died at a Donnybrook show. Asshole.

[obsessis]

yeah, it's nuts. i hope shootings don't become commonplace at shows. i don't have anything to worry about in omaha but i'd like kids to get along.

[poly800rock]

Quote:

i bought an X rated swatch watch for 80 and sold it for 160.
--- Original message by obsessis on Jan 13, 2006 09:17 PMthougt they went for way more than that...
http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZtriggerkid

[xcoldricex]

los crudos got me into hiphop.

one of the guitarists broke his string in the middle of the set- while he was fixing it, the singer told the bassist and the drummer to put down a beat and he busted out turtles and windmills. haha.

[youngluc]

Quote:

i like hardcore. i hate (most) hardcore kids.
--- Original message by canice on Jan 9, 2006 06:05 PMagreed

[LanceP]

Wow, I didn't know this many people were into hardcore here.

Favorites...

American Nightmare
Lifetime
Negative Approach
Infest

Oh yeah, fuck the B9. Who remembers the Mullet board?

EDIT: Listen to Shipwreck.
Edited by LanceP on Mar 14, 2006 at 06:45 AM

[youwish]

My band just recorded a demo after being around for 2+ years.
The Detroit Birds
www.myspace.com/fromage5

I also remember the mullet board but didn't have a pw.

[youngluc]

Quote:

Wow, I didn't know this many people were into hardcore here.

Favorites...

American Nightmare
Lifetime
Negative Approach
Infest

Oh yeah, fuck the B9. Who remembers the Mullet board?

EDIT: Listen to Shipwreck.
Edited by LanceP on Mar 14, 2006 at 06:45 AM
--- Original message by LanceP on Mar 14, 2006 06:42 AMshipwreck rules

[nytel]

hardcore is some shitty music.

[nytel]

and their black hoodie fashion sucks!

[d]

I've been meaning to check out american nightmare, ive always heard good things. Reading this makes me feel old and miss the good ole days.

[drew exclusive]

yeah we live for our "black hoodie fashion" fuck i dont know if wed even have hardcore if it wasnt for our black hoodies
http://www.henricodoctors.com/cpm/RichmondSkylineNight.jpg

[headtowall]

Eff a black hoodie. Champion Reverse Weaves.

I for one, really like the wave of reunions going on lately. It's allowed me to see Gorilla Biscuits, Bold, 108, Beyond, Damnation A.D., Underdog, Lifetime, and probably a bunch of others I can't even remember right now. I'm keeping my fingers crossed for Quicksand...

[youngluc]

Quote:

Eff a black hoodie. Champion Reverse Weaves.

I for one, really like the wave of reunions going on lately. It's allowed me to see Gorilla Biscuits, Bold, 108, Beyond, Damnation A.D., Underdog, Lifetime, and probably a bunch of others I can't even remember right now. I'm keeping my fingers crossed for Quicksand...
--- Original message by headtowall on Mar 14, 2006 02:37 PMquicksand should do one in good time, and when it does i will lose my mind

[drew exclusive]

underdog was awesome, whered you see them?
http://www.henricodoctors.com/cpm/RichmondSkylineNight.jpg

[azad]

ive been out of the hardcore loop for a minute now; any new acts holdin it down?

edit. my innate hardcore elitism already answered my question. btwi couldnt agree with you more nowadays candice.

toma açaí
Edited by azad on Mar 14, 2006 at 07:25 PM

[headtowall]

I saw Underdog at posi numbers and in DC. Didn't go up the first one back they did at CBs.

[azad]

Quote:



Hardcore sucks! The late 80's had a lot of good bands and since then not much has happened that's new and appealing. Since getting into hardcore I've met too many shitty people, seen tons of terrible fights, listened to some god aweful bands and delt with people thinking they are the bees knees because they know this band or have these jeans on or got into the show for free. I had some good times going places (mostly the east coast) and met a few amazing people who are still my good friends.

Straight edge only exists cause fuck ups need some place to go so they can feel cool too. Everybody needs somewhere to fit in.

Only bands in HC right now I know are friends bands. Otherwise, I don't check it out anymore.
Razzle Dazzle, Mental, Cold World, Mind Eraser, LOJ and Violent Minds

If I lived somewhere other than Detroit I'd probably feel differently.



--- Original message by youwish on Nov 13, 2005 07:45 PMit's quite amazing how hardcore and hip hop mirror each other. both had their golden eras ca. 87-94, both are anti-establishment, provide(-d, whats with this fsu shit) safe alternatives to the youth. and both are being raped by viacom/clear channel/ whiny wannabes. and each scene nowadays has its own dress code. I remember when kids used to flip out of style cheap clothes and still come fresh. it's all well and good to rock nice clothes, but alot of it is unoriginal and too contrived.
toma açaí

[dystaind]

in my mind i've begun to relate hip hop and krump dancing to hardcore vs. the general punk movement. in a lot of ways you can see similarities, pockets of kids gathering and becomign disillusioned with their area and the mentality a lot of the kids have fallen into. there is a digression from just "anti-establishment" and instead a need or want to create some kind of community.

it is a bit of a stretch, but i think there's a lot more connections and parallels than a lot of people realize.

as a whole i still love hardcore. i can't say that i was around during the 80's, scene during the 90's, and i don't even call myself straight edge. but why should i have to to be, in order to be able to enjoy something? why should my birth year or my ethnicity, or my clothing, any of it separate me from what i like? that's what i hate about hardcore-- that closed minded centralized structure.

i think as a whole i just hate stereotyping and labels. i understand the psychological responses to "schemas" and what not-- but there's a huge difference between being an asshole and being a human.

[youngluc]

Quote:

Quote:



Hardcore sucks! The late 80's had a lot of good bands and since then not much has happened that's new and appealing. Since getting into hardcore I've met too many shitty people, seen tons of terrible fights, listened to some god aweful bands and delt with people thinking they are the bees knees because they know this band or have these jeans on or got into the show for free. I had some good times going places (mostly the east coast) and met a few amazing people who are still my good friends.

Straight edge only exists cause fuck ups need some place to go so they can feel cool too. Everybody needs somewhere to fit in.

Only bands in HC right now I know are friends bands. Otherwise, I don't check it out anymore.
Razzle Dazzle, Mental, Cold World, Mind Eraser, LOJ and Violent Minds

If I lived somewhere other than Detroit I'd probably feel differently.



--- Original message by youwish on Nov 13, 2005 07:45 PMit's quite amazing how hardcore and hip hop mirror each other. both had their golden eras ca. 87-94, both are anti-establishment, provide(-d, whats with this fsu shit) safe alternatives to the youth. and both are being raped by viacom/clear channel/ whiny wannabes. and each scene nowadays has its own dress code. I remember when kids used to flip out of style cheap clothes and still come fresh. it's all well and good to rock nice clothes, but alot of it is unoriginal and too contrived.

--- Original message by azad on Mar 14, 2006 08:10 PMthey really are, and it seems that whatever is fashionable and trendy and such in hardcore and hip hop soon after becomes mainstream trends

[Airjamie]

I agree with you kids on the black hoodie fashion thing. If i see another one of these kids im going to fucking vomit. Has punk rock ever been as dead as it is today? I spoke to tony pines a couple days ago, at least ohio wont put up with this shit.

[telluride11]

you know what? hc is so fucking cool its not even funny. if you look at the cro mags or raybeez RIP or richie cipriano or reagan youth 1988 or any of that shit you just cant fuck with it. all the cocksmokers on this board who just got into comme des garcons and t shirts last year and are trying to get over ninja tunes, trying to find something cooler than nudies and pretending theyre too cool for sneakers when they were buying SB classics last year will never even touch or understand what style truly is.
hc is straight up the coolest shit in the world, even when its fucking gay like it is now, even when so many hc kids suck so hard (which i aint sayin they do, but face the facts, its pretty gay now), when so many bands were so disappointing and failed in the biggest way, theres no girls, no money in it but it is so fucking good that you just cant touch it man, even when it sucks it doesnt compare to when its so fuckin ill.
my life gets worse every day but i will always get by on another day when i think of how fucked id be if i hadt gotten into hc, how many good things hc has done for me, how many cool people i met and how lucky i am to have found it. straight up its the illest, geto boys 1989 cash money 1999 is some fly fly shit but you cant fuck with enn why aiche see

i aint no homo'ing this post even though hc is so so so gay sometimes. fuck its gay
shout outs to all the true hc kids.. dont cut any corners
fuck corny newjack hc pussy sneakerheads
you know who yall are
cro mags

i started something
Edited by telluride11 on Mar 14, 2006 at 10:47 PM

[Airjamie]

Preach.

[drew exclusive]

that was the best post ive ever read on this board
http://www.henricodoctors.com/cpm/RichmondSkylineNight.jpg

[drew exclusive]

yo headtowall i saw them in DC too, maybe weve seen each other around?
http://www.henricodoctors.com/cpm/RichmondSkylineNight.jpg

[azad]

the best hardcore bands i know (no namers now) arent even part of the scene, because the scene's full of trendy crabs. in a way, that's what makes their material so much better; it's like a breath of fresh air.
toma açaí

[dystaind]

being anti-scene is just being more scene. you fall into the trap no matter what you do.

just like what you like and leave it at that.

i like some ridiculous music and i don't intend to apologize in any way for it.

[obsessis]

Quote:
--- Original message by youwish on Nov 13, 2005 07:45 PMit's quite amazing how hardcore and hip hop mirror each other. both had their golden eras ca. 87-94, both are anti-establishment, provide(-d, whats with this fsu shit) safe alternatives to the youth. and both are being raped by viacom/clear channel/ whiny wannabes. and each scene nowadays has its own dress code. I remember when kids used to flip out of style cheap clothes and still come fresh. it's all well and good to rock nice clothes, but alot of it is unoriginal and too contrived.

--- Original message by azad on Mar 14, 2006 08:10 PM

well said. the underground shit really is/was very similar with people from each branching out into each other.
Edited by obsessis on Mar 15, 2006 at 03:13 AM

[haptronic]

Quote: i like some ridiculous music and i don't intend to apologize in any way for it.

best thing i ever read on here images/icon_smile_cool.gif
http://xs50.xs.to/pics/05413/teisco.gif

[headtowall]

It's entirely possible, Drew.

[LanceP]

YOU COME INTO THIS WORLD... WITH NOTHING EXCEPT YOURSELF.
YOU LEAVE THIS WORLD... WITH NOTHING EXCEPT YOURSELF.

[headtowall]

Duh the Cro-Mags are one of the best bands ever.

[LanceP]

I think the Cro-Mags are sweet and all, but it's pretty shitty how you can't be into hardcore unless you love this band... or else people will think you're a fuckin idiot. I guarantee you that a lot of the people into hardcore actually don't love the Cro-Mags as much as they say they do; obviously, they'll never admit it.
Edited by LanceP on Mar 15, 2006 at 07:49 AM

[azad]

i know kids now who will actually say "if you dont like cro-mags, you're obviously a nigger." again with the reflecting, hardcore is becoming more racist/homophobic, as is hip hop. i dont know if this is just particular to the scenes i know (new york, philly, la), but alarm bells are ringing for sure.

toma açaí
Edited by azad on Mar 15, 2006 at 11:48 AM

[LanceP]

I should've included the word "now" in my post when saying "into hardcore (now)." Ah well.

Where I'm from, people openly say the word "nigga" as a friend, again tying in the whole hip-hop affiliation. I'm pretty sure there's no racism in the scene here in Boston; if there was, it'd get stomped immediately, I assume. Homphobic... maybe. I don't personally know anyone in the scene who is gay, or anyone who just hasn't come out with it... I'm sure there are some though.

[drew exclusive]

Quote:


i know kids now who will actually say "if you dont like cro-mags, you're obviously a nigger." again with the reflecting, hardcore is becoming more racist/homophobic, as is hip hop. i dont know if this is just particular to the scenes i know (new york, philly, la), but alarm bells are ringing for sure.


--- Original message by azad on Mar 15, 2006 11:47 AMits funny you should say that. if you ever seen the mags live harley drops nigga in every other sentence
http://www.henricodoctors.com/cpm/RichmondSkylineNight.jpg

[azad]

LOL
toma açaí

[UsVersusThem]

i know out here in socal theres ALOT of gay kids into hardcore. and i wouldnt say overtly racist kids are prevailent...but def alot of ignorant ones.

[icegrillz]

RIGHT NOW;

down to nothing
TAEA
cold world
holdxtrue

[gentleman]

didnt realize some of you guys were from hardcore...kinda funny how people evolve.

i used to go to every show back in high school...from 93 to about 97 or so...in nyc, i guess it was the 3rd wave of nyhc. was in the pit with ray beez from warzone, saw sheer terror, no redeeming social value, crown of thornz, 108, leeway, murphys law.

i was more straight edge in high school which was dumb as shit in retrospect but it did keep me out of trouble. i was pretty turned off by the chuga chuga metalcore/gangsta stuff like madball and skarhead but it was all pretty fun.

all the nyc clubs closed down and so did the scene. i kind of hated that i missed gorilla biscuits at cb's last summer but spending $200 to see them just doesnt seem right.

[designer_socks]

Quick i need some definitions:

straight edge, (insert-cd here) saved my life, and other so called hard-core terms.

Im ignorant as fcuk and would like to know.

[azad]

straight edge has different meanings for different people. most people who consider themselves sxe are "drug free", and dont have promiscious sex.
i have met others who think that straight edge is "politics", seeing not just drugs, alcohol, and sex as distractions, but also meat/dairy consumption, as well as placing your hopes in a paticular politcal party or religion. in other words, some think being straight edge is the willingness to abstain from all vices in the world, in a kind of nirvanic way.

toma açaí
Edited by azad on Mar 21, 2006 at 11:34 AM

[headtowall]

Gorilla Biscuits last summer was one of the best times of my life. It was only like $15 I think, not $200. I had a blast.

[JesseJB]

I bet hardcore dancing fades raw denim like no other.

[babe it out]

some of my best friends are in these bands
http://www.facedownrecords.com/family-seventhstar.htm
http://strikefirstrecords.com/bands-ctp.html

[theswarm]

i saw seventh star in london earlier in the year they were awesome

[capn jazzcore]

bracewar bracewar bracewar. GET INTO IT.

[babe it out]

i saw seventh star in london earlier in the year they were awesome

they're really amazing guys too. suuuper funny

[Get Smart]

Gorilla Biscuits is playing LA area now (sat nite in Pomona, tonite at Chain Reaction) with Murphy's Law...I never would have thought that they'd be playing a show 15+ years after I saw them last. unreal.

[poly800rock]

this thread always cracks me up because every few months after it has been ignored for a really long time, someone always digs this out again!

[denimdestroyedmylife]

i dig up the hardcore 7"s once in a while, get misty-eyed and bury them again.

it is a novel pleasure smoking herb and listening to gorilla biscuits-----bidip bo!

[moongirl]

gb just played in sf last week. i missed them. but i don' t know if i would've enjoyed it as much as i did when i was 19.

the jersey hc scene was kinda fucked when i was growing up. a lot of shit-heads. but i guess i can't complain too much. that's how i met my sweetie...

[Get Smart]

it is a novel pleasure smoking herb and listening to gorilla biscuits-----bidip bo!

right on. I saw a guy at a bar getting shitfaced while wearing a Youth of Today tshirt. the irony of it all rules ok.

[headtowall]

I bet hardcore dancing fades raw denim like no other.

Saw FVK(Cro-Mags) in my New Standards and I attribute a lot of the wear to that night. I blame We Gotta Know.

[moondog]

Outburst At Cbgb's This Sunday!

[cultpop 0217]

I guess I grew up! And a lot of Berkeley/ punks punks are hippies. The origins of punk are not in violence and rage, they are in DIY music and anti-establishment.

Carpe Denim!
http://images.andale.com/f2/110/104/6352519/1112885282366_selvage1_edited.JPG
Edited by Serge d Nimes on Jun 16, 2005 at 09:16 AM

quoted for truth.
honestly i had nothing against hardcore music or the hardcore scene (i have been to more shows than can name) and i love minor threat, cromags etc. but i was way into punk (as opposed to hardcore. there is a difference.) mod, ska, skate art blah blah etc. those scenes seemed to be a little egalitarian. i went to d.i.y. shows to escape that testosterone fueled jock aggro crap and most of the hardcore shows i went were populated by those types.
i never saw much difference between the jock/herd mentality that permeated much of the hardcore scene and the jock/herd mentality that the football/cheerleader types gave off. just different uniforms.
you know when ian mac kaye wrote "straight edge" he was also referring to the false tough guy bravado that so many in the hardcore scene fronted. he never intended for it to become a rallying cry for a bunch of thuggish and hardline (sxe) behavior.
on the other hand the unity and political awareness of both the hardcore and punk scenes was very inspiring so when someone says "hardcore (or punk or ska or metal or skateboarding etc..) saved my life, i fully understand what they mean.

[poly800rock]

gb just played in sf last week. i missed them. but i don' t know if i would've enjoyed it as much as i did when i was 19.

the jersey hc scene was kinda fucked when i was growing up. a lot of shit-heads. but i guess i can't complain too much. that's how i met my sweetie...

19? would not have enjoyed it unless i was 15! that being said, I really really regret not being able to go to the pist reunion a few years back!

[headtowall]

you know when ian mac kaye wrote "straight edge" he was also referring to the false tough guy bravado that so many in the hardcore scene fronted. he never intended for it to become a rallying cry for a bunch of thuggish and hardline (sxe) behavior.


He also once said something to the effect of "he blew pot smoke in my face so I hit him in the head with a fucking hammer."

[artificialsky]

love hardcore.

hate the fact that 85 percent of people at hardcore shows are closet jocks.

[xcoldricex]

19? would not have enjoyed it unless i was 15! that being said, I really really regret not being able to go to the pist reunion a few years back!

the pist!!!!

[onemancult]

He also once said something to the effect of "he blew pot smoke in my face so I hit him in the head with a fucking hammer."

the truth!

[poly800rock]

anyone like civil disobedience? that 7" they put out was fucking amazing, will still stand by that 7"

just found an mp3

http://www.havocrex.com/mp3/civil_disobedience_faith_not_sight.mp3

[cultpop 0217]

love hardcore.

hate the fact that 85 percent of people at hardcore shows are closet jocks.

the truth!

[headtowall]

the truth!

I can see this I guess, but it must suck to let something you love be ruined for you by the people you associate with it.

[cultpop 0217]

I can see this I guess, but it must suck to let something you love be ruined for you by the people you associate with it.

nothing ruined. fights were just another part of the scene whether it was skins or boneheads or some fool in a hoody.

the threat and possibilty of real and imminent violence was always there. wearing the wrong laces in your boots or wrong color braces could get you fucked up. nowadays everyone is staring at their dunks.

[poly800rock]

nothing ruined. fights were just another part of the scene whether it was skins or boneheads or some fool in a hoody.

the threat and possibilty of real and imminent violence was always there. wearing the wrong laces in your boots or wrong color braces could get you fucked up. nowadays everyone is staring at their dunks.


skins were more of a problem than jocks.

[stayhandsome]

Rzl Dzl is the only band keeping me interested in HC.

[american_hearts]

the threat and possibilty of real and imminent violence was always there. wearing the wrong laces in your boots or wrong color braces could get you fucked up.

because hardcore kids somehow got the idea they were the bloods and the crips and could hold it down and rep their hood and be hard, et al. hardcore shows have always been dick-waving conventions. and yet, mindless violence and aggression makes more sense than one more half-hearted shit song about sticking together.

[ddohnggo]

Fsu!!!!!!!!!!

[ten100switch]

the pist!!!!

ok wow that brings me back to being 16 thanks

[Heartworm]

Went to see the Architechts and The Chariot yesterday... it was awesome.

[Get Smart]

"Punk's Dead, You're Next"

[denimdestroyedmylife]

puffing smoke
high on dope
will this thread ever end?

will it ever fuckin' end?!

[headtowall]

There's no reason why this thread should ever end.

[typicalfashion]

i am amazed how many people on here are hardcore kids. yet we all wore XXL strife shirts... at least i did.

[typicalfashion]

He also once said something to the effect of "he blew pot smoke in my face so I hit him in the head with a fucking hammer."

he didn't actually hit him in the head with the hammer though. but yeah, he was working on a set for a school play! how hxc is that?

[headtowall]

he didn't actually hit him in the head with the hammer though. but yeah, he was working on a set for a school play! how hxc is that?

I listen to Embrace more anyway...

[drew exclusive]

quoted for truth.
honestly i had nothing against hardcore music or the hardcore scene (i have been to more shows than can name) and i love minor threat, cromags etc. but i was way into punk (as opposed to hardcore. there is a difference.) mod, ska, skate art blah blah etc. those scenes seemed to be a little egalitarian. i went to d.i.y. shows to escape that testosterone fueled jock aggro crap and most of the hardcore shows i went were populated by those types.
i never saw much difference between the jock/herd mentality that permeated much of the hardcore scene and the jock/herd mentality that the football/cheerleader types gave off. just different uniforms.
you know when ian mac kaye wrote "straight edge" he was also referring to the false tough guy bravado that so many in the hardcore scene fronted. he never intended for it to become a rallying cry for a bunch of thuggish and hardline (sxe) behavior.
on the other hand the unity and political awareness of both the hardcore and punk scenes was very inspiring so when someone says "hardcore (or punk or ska or metal or skateboarding etc..) saved my life, i fully understand what they mean.

Thanks for the history lesson

[dutchxoven]

at this very moment im listening to antidote, infest, bladecrasher, and right brigade.

...just thought id share. ha

[poly800rock]

skewbald 4 life, i also get a kick out of all these former hardcore kids really into higher end fashion nowadays

[JesseJB]

BOSTON BEATDOWN!!!!!


I wanna see that.

You know where theres a secret crazy ass scene? Spokane. Its true.

[american_hearts]

Boston Beatdown really exposes these hardcore figureheads for what they are -- old, bored, slightly dumb kids that grew up without any sense of purpose or direction. trust me, it's not even worth watching for the fights. it's possibly worth watching to see what these FSU "legends" are really like. chabo in particular -- does this fuck-up think he's in Godfather 4?

that being said, right brigade is where it's at because jesse standhard just don't care about the kids, the scene, the worst parts of hardcore often confused to be the best.

[Get Smart]

at this very moment im listening to antidote, infest, bladecrasher, and right brigade.


godamn there's someone with taste. Throw in Shark Attack and I'd say you were the coolest dood here.....after me of course.

[Get Smart]

Boston Beatdown really exposes these hardcore figureheads for what they are -- old, bored, slightly dumb kids that grew up without any sense of purpose or direction. trust me, it's not even worth watching for the fights. .

in the legendary words of DrugxTest....

DOWN THE STAIRS!!

[dutchxoven]

godamn there's someone with taste. Throw in Shark Attack and I'd say you were the coolest dood here.....after me of course.

we rule....its offical. ha

[poly800rock]

godamn there's someone with taste. Throw in Shark Attack and I'd say you were the coolest dood here.....after me of course.

when my band was recording our album, we were looking for more reels to record on and the guy turned around and pulled out the shark attack reel, he didn't do it though...

[youngluc]

i just got back from seeing fvk in CT.... holy shit was that amazing!

[theswarm]

its all about stout.
oh and the lbu.

[ddohnggo]

look back and laugh!

[denimdestroyedmylife]

last week i dug up the Econochrist "skewed" 7"------read along with the lyrics; strange, i agree absolutely, but i've been living in bad faith

read the last issue of "no answers" that was included with the 7"-------kent mcclard's existential rant rang true, but he called out a former friend for "selling out" and i ended up feeling rather indignant

we all have to find our own way through life; i can sleep at night----a decent barometer

oh, and i dug up the hoover/lincoln split 7"; realized it was the first art monk construction release.

[ddohnggo]

i like how kent mcclard was all hung up about how 'he named' rage against the machine.

[denimdestroyedmylife]

damn, i forgot about all that... INSIDE OUT fucking ruled. it is weird when a vocalist sounds entirely different depending on the band they are in

another case: ray cappo



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Ebullition Records is an independent record label and distro (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distro) based out of Goleta (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goleta), California (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California). It publishes HeartattaCk (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HeartattaCk), a 'zine focusing on independent punk and hardcore from around the world which is informed by an anti-consumerist (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-consumerist) and D.I.Y. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D.I.Y.) ideology.
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History

In early 1990, former Maximum RocknRoll (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maximum_RocknRoll) columnist Kent McClard started Ebullition Records with contributions from Sonia Skindrud (writer of Exedra 'zine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zine)) and Brent Stephens (member of Downcast). Skindrud came up with the name, and Stephens drew the logo, however the label is primarily run by McClard.
Los Angeles (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Los_Angeles) metalcore (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metalcore) band Inside Out (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inside_Out) was meant to record an LP as the first Ebullition release. However, Revelation Records (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revelation_Records) asked them to release a 7" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7%22) instead, and the band chose the more established label. The record wasn't released for another year, after the band had broken up and reformed as Rage Against The Machine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rage_Against_The_Machine)
Incidentally, Inside Out did plan to do a second record called "Rage Against the Machine", which was a phrase Kent coined in some writings he did for the 'zine No Answers #9. They never managed to finish this second release and singer Zack de La Rocha (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zack_de_La_Rocha) ended up using the phrase for the title of his next band.
Ebullition's first release came out in late 1990. Kent had been doing No Answers 'zine since 1983 and the ninth issue came with the Downcast 7" (Ebullition #1). Ebullition released 3,000 copies of No Answers #9 with the Downcast 7" and after those were sold the 'zine and 7" became separate products.

downcast------THAT was a band. i forgot about them entirely.

[ddohnggo]

my friend goes to grad school at brown with Ani who sang for manumission. they released a few records on ebullition.

[denimdestroyedmylife]

manumission! i did distro for a short time (mainly ebullition; just so that i could get free records for myself, use them to trade for other 7"'s at shows, and hook up my friends), and the binary lung 7" was one of the records i used to hock. sweet memories.

i think the first 7" i ever bought was SAWHORSE (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300020655889&category=306); purchased from a small box of 7"'s in zipperhead on south street, philadelphia, when i was in junior high

[JBee]

This is gonna sound odd but does anyone know about the u.k. band 'Bob Tilton' or their later incarnation '(wolves) of greece'?

[denimdestroyedmylife]

yeah! i still have a couple BOB TILTON 7"'s; i've never met anyone else that even heard of them; waaaay out there for that time in hardcore; awesome packaging, even.

i don't know "wolves of greece", though; probably came out after i sort of lost interest in this music

my turn:

anyone remember ASSFACTOR 4 from NC?-----their drummer sat on a cooler and they all sang (screamed); i saw them twice or thrice and they have been extremely memorable shows; i wouldn't sell their records for anything

[headtowall]

anyone remember ASSFACTOR 4 from NC?-----their drummer sat on a cooler and they all sang (screamed); i saw them twice or thrice and they have been extremely memorable shows; i wouldn't sell their records for anything

Remember, but never saw.

[poly800rock]

yeah! i still have a couple BOB TILTON 7"'s; i've never met anyone else that even heard of them; waaaay out there for that time in hardcore; awesome packaging, even.

i don't know "wolves of greece", though; probably came out after i sort of lost interest in this music

my turn:

anyone remember ASSFACTOR 4 from NC?-----their drummer sat on a cooler and they all sang (screamed); i saw them twice or thrice and they have been extremely memorable shows; i wouldn't sell their records for anything


thought you said the japanese thrash band ASSFORT for a second. seriously, how great was Orchid?

[ddohnggo]

pretty good. i saw them a few times, once with the blood brothers a long time ago in seattle, once at fort thunder, and saw their last two sets at harvard. good times.

[denimdestroyedmylife]

sorry, i am out of the loop re: any hardcore after 1996...
:(

that's when i bought my first CD player and purged most of my hardcore vinyl------for very little $$$

:(:(:(

[ddohnggo]

you should've kept them and then sold them now for $$$$$$$$$$$$$$.

i don't think you missed much post 1996.

[poly800rock]

i am too minus some of the newer ebullition ie orchid. i don't remember much after the pist broke up..

[denimdestroyedmylife]

i kept the records that meant most to me at the time:

indian summer
current
chino horde
UOA
most of the gravity stuff


the more interesting bands

i wish i'd kept more of the heavier stuff; i got rid of ALL the SXE records (sadly)

oh well

i'll shut the fuck up now...

[poly800rock]

i sold a majority of my records as well, but saved this one

the proletariat - soma holiday
http://skafunkrastapunk.com/?p=108 and its available for download which is amazing

and wow they have a fucking myspace

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=79043675

[ddohnggo]

i still have a lot of my records. i've only really sold records that i've had doubles of.

i still love the gravity era hardcore stuff. antioch arrow, angel hair, clikitat all kill me every time i hear them.

[denimdestroyedmylife]

^^ true; the gravity records bands make me wish i was in a band again every time i hear them

the 7" format is perfect; bands like mohinder made them feel like full lengths; you really cut out all the crap when you know the clock is ticking

[JBee]

yeah! i still have a couple BOB TILTON 7"'s; i've never met anyone else that even heard of them; waaaay out there for that time in hardcore; awesome packaging, even.

i don't know "wolves of greece", though; probably came out after i sort of lost interest in this music


Thats cool, I used to work with their singer, Simon, really really nice man. We worked in a record store together and was in awe of their music. Not my thing at all but i could see how amazing they were. I had heard they were known in the 'right' circles (played with Shellac etc...). I used to deal with Kent at ebullition too, again nice man.

Wolves only released one 10" ep, one side of lost, yet direct emotion that blows pretty much anything else in the area away, amazing. If there are any mp3s out there I would recommend anyone to take a listen to any Tilton or wolves, stunning music, like ddml said, way ahead of their time and live they were better than anyone!

[denimdestroyedmylife]

i should probably just get googling, but did tilton release anything after their first two 7"'s?


oh NM, i just found this (http://www.southern.com/southern/band/BOBTI/biog.html)

i should re-listen to those records, its been a long time

thanks!

[onemancult]

at a certain point in time, the bands on Gravity records were the only hardcore bands worth listening to. that point in time started awhile ago, and has yet to end.

[genemachine]

ok, i could get down with supreme bad brains shirts, i thought the fucking awesome judge and integ rips were lame already but now aNYthing is topping it with YOT RIP OFF shirts? WTF?!

http://www.nikeskateboarding.org/sidious/aNYthing/anything%20f06%20tees-1-9.jpg

thinking about all the hypebeasts who have never even heard of hardcore, youth of today or straight edge, who will just wear this because it's an aNYthing shirt makes me want to vomit.

[poly800rock]

ok, i could get down with supreme bad brains shirts, i thought the fucking awesome judge and integ rips were lame already but now aNYthing is topping it with YOT RIP OFF shirts? WTF?!

http://www.nikeskateboarding.org/sidious/aNYthing/anything%20f06%20tees-1-9.jpg

thinking about all the hypebeasts who have never even heard of hardcore, youth of today or straight edge, who will just wear this because it's an aNYthing shirt makes me want to vomit.

whatever, at least its a decent nod.

[onemancult]

ok, i could get down with supreme bad brains shirts, i thought the fucking awesome judge and integ rips were lame already but now aNYthing is topping it with YOT RIP OFF shirts? WTF?!

http://www.nikeskateboarding.org/sidious/aNYthing/anything%20f06%20tees-1-9.jpg

thinking about all the hypebeasts who have never even heard of hardcore, youth of today or straight edge, who will just wear this because it's an aNYthing shirt makes me want to vomit.

i actually really dig that shirt. then again, i'm not a hypebeast, and i've heard of hardcore, youth of today, and straight edge.

[Larry Bird]

bump up this shit....

i found sxe/hardcore while recovering from a little problem i had with heroin/opiates so i guess im a little different from most sxe kids.....i wont get into my war stories but thank god for this shit..

bobbyhundreds...that LA article/list you wrote for the new mass appeal was awesome...ups.

[poly800rock]

punk hardcore torrents is an amazing site. i just got so much shit. crudos discography, man afraid discography, a proletariat demo, its awesome.

i actually ended up uploading a ton for the kids.
violent society, el dopa, proletariat live cd, teengenerate, a ton of stuff.

i suggest everyone do the same and sign up for this shit, i never do vinyl rips, but these people do.

[headtowall]

punk hardcore torrents is an amazing site. i just got so much shit. crudos discography, man afraid discography, a proletariat demo, its awesome.

i actually ended up uploading a ton for the kids.
violent society, el dopa, proletariat live cd, teengenerate, a ton of stuff.

i suggest everyone do the same and sign up for this shit, i never do vinyl rips, but these people do.

Link for this?

[poly800rock]

Link for this?
http://www.punktorrents.com/

[xcoldricex]

thank you. i will get on this once i'm done with my exam.

[canice]

my perverse sense of self-service is excited that t-shirt companies are now making hardcore references, because i don't get most of the hip hop ones. YOT is corny as shit. i love this band, but i don't see how any brand could pull it off (though i invite someone to post picture of said item to prove me wrong)

[poly800rock]

thank you. i will get on this once i'm done with my exam.

how is med school? but seriously, rip anything pre 96 and your ratio will be like 5. thats what i did and my ratio is off the hook, there just isn't enough punk that i like to download to make the tradeoff.

[LanceP]

Didn't some brand put out a t-shirt with a GB reference recently?

[haptronic]

YOT is corny as shit. i love this band, but i don't see how any brand could pull it off (though i invite someone to post picture of said item to prove me wrong)

well not quite what you asked for... but here's me wearing an original in 1989..

http://xs206.xs.to/xs206/06381/hap.jpg

[showbiz00ditc]

haha thats amazing