beroldsky
02-26-07, 08:21 AM
Just wondering what everyone's thoughts are on Dash Snow and the whole scene he is in Dan Colen etc...
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artificialsky
02-26-07, 08:35 AM
definitely like to have as much cocaine as they have.
beroldsky
02-26-07, 08:59 AM
ahahha I know and money now, colen sold his rock for 500 000, not bad for 27 year old
wEstSidE
02-26-07, 09:00 AM
irak bs...
i'm waiting for this shit to start.
i'm waiting for this shit to start.
onemancult
02-26-07, 09:15 AM
dash is certifiably insane in my book. whether or not he is a rich bitch wannabe boho is not a point worth arguing, because the truth is self-evident.
dan colen and ryan mcginley and others, though, i have more than a few shreds of respect for. their desire and ability to keep dash reined in from disappearing off of the face of the earth is admirable, and their backgrounds are a bit more genuine than dash's. their work is also more interesting to me, anyway.
dan colen and ryan mcginley and others, though, i have more than a few shreds of respect for. their desire and ability to keep dash reined in from disappearing off of the face of the earth is admirable, and their backgrounds are a bit more genuine than dash's. their work is also more interesting to me, anyway.
beroldsky
02-26-07, 09:55 AM
yeah I agree with you about colen and mcginley.. and dash I think is the perfect anti hero the art world needs
wEstSidE
02-26-07, 09:58 AM
lol
dash snow has a picture of some dude doing coke off of earsnot's dick.
dash snow put semen on ny post articles
wtf?
i don't have anything to say about mcginly except no homo.
dash snow has a picture of some dude doing coke off of earsnot's dick.
dash snow put semen on ny post articles
wtf?
i don't have anything to say about mcginly except no homo.
Crillz
02-26-07, 10:21 AM
entertainment ≠ art.
artificialsky
02-26-07, 10:24 AM
yeah I agree with you about colen and mcginley.. and dash I think is the perfect anti hero the art world needs
yeah, that's exactly what art needs, another anti hero!
you know what else needs some more anti heros? Rock n' Roll man, shit!
dumbass.
yeah, that's exactly what art needs, another anti hero!
you know what else needs some more anti heros? Rock n' Roll man, shit!
dumbass.
onemancult
02-26-07, 10:26 AM
art needs anti-heroes, but anti-heroes need talent.
dash lacks talent, imo.
dash lacks talent, imo.
macuser3of5
02-26-07, 11:18 AM
Wow, Nan G and Larry C had an illegitimate child and didn't tell anyone?
SNOOZE
Art gallery != anti-hero
SNOOZE
Art gallery != anti-hero
NESK
02-26-07, 01:18 PM
i never heard of this dude. where can i see his work so i can be "over" it.
wEstSidE
02-26-07, 01:20 PM
here's his snapshot aesthetic shit: http://www.tinyvices.com/dash_snow_1
NESK
02-26-07, 01:24 PM
gah! im sorry i asked. shock value can be done really well and make you say "holy fuck!" or it can miss and make you go " oh look ................. how shocking.........."
wEstSidE
02-26-07, 01:27 PM
do you want to see the cum stained ny post shit now or what?
NESK
02-26-07, 01:29 PM
i do, but not out of an aprreciation for his work. more just because ITS TOALLY EXTREME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
wEstSidE
02-26-07, 01:32 PM
here's some of them, too lazy to find the rest
http://www.saatchi-gallery.co.uk/artists/dash_snow.htm
http://www.saatchi-gallery.co.uk/artists/dash_snow.htm
NESK
02-26-07, 01:36 PM
the writeups on that site are very painful to read.
he nutted on newspaper, thus he is jesus.
he nutted on newspaper, thus he is jesus.
wEstSidE
02-26-07, 01:50 PM
jizz is short for jesus.
doctorgnar
02-26-07, 10:39 PM
People have been making art out of human excrement and taking snapshots of youthful debauchery for a long time. Its nothing new.
Dash Snow has no talent. He makes collages using jizz insead of glue. It's boring, really.
He is a member of one of the the wealthiest, most powerful families in the art world. Look up the de Menils. He is not just some rich, irreverent kid.
Dash Snow has no talent. He makes collages using jizz insead of glue. It's boring, really.
He is a member of one of the the wealthiest, most powerful families in the art world. Look up the de Menils. He is not just some rich, irreverent kid.
notesee
02-26-07, 10:59 PM
Even though in an interivew Dash has said that he hates photography and technology in general, I've always found his photos interesting.
I could just imagine the insanity that had to occur in order to get to some of those moments ..
I could just imagine the insanity that had to occur in order to get to some of those moments ..
macuser3of5
02-26-07, 11:45 PM
Even though in an interivew Dash has said that he hates photography and technology in general, I've always found his photos interesting.
Someone making a digital C-print doesn't hate technology. Now, I could see some merit in that statement if he stuck to the original polaroid as a medium; ie one-offs, but making copies in a digital format, and subsequently knocking 'photography' and 'technology' just reeks of self-concious anti-ness. Weak.
I could just imagine the insanity that had to occur in order to get to some of those moments ..
Dash Snow: Hey, here's $100/$200/$300, do something fucked up and act like you don't notice the camera.
Gutterslut: OK
Someone making a digital C-print doesn't hate technology. Now, I could see some merit in that statement if he stuck to the original polaroid as a medium; ie one-offs, but making copies in a digital format, and subsequently knocking 'photography' and 'technology' just reeks of self-concious anti-ness. Weak.
I could just imagine the insanity that had to occur in order to get to some of those moments ..
Dash Snow: Hey, here's $100/$200/$300, do something fucked up and act like you don't notice the camera.
Gutterslut: OK
artificialsky
02-26-07, 11:48 PM
THAT POLAROID STUFF IS PRETTY COOL, BUT DASH SHOULD REALLY MAKE MORE PRINTS OF FARMERS WITH DUCT TAPE OVER THEIR EYES...
JUST SAYIN'http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y5/interficium/spacer.gif
JUST SAYIN'http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y5/interficium/spacer.gif
macuser3of5
02-26-07, 11:50 PM
THAT POLAROID STUFF IS PRETTY COOL, BUT DASH SHOULD REALLY MAKE MORE PRINTS OF FARMERS WITH DUCT TAPE OVER THEIR EYES...
JUST SAYIN'http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y5/interficium/spacer.gif
I FUCKING HATE YOU
JUST SAYIN'
<3
EDIT: Alternatively, he could use a NiN music video screenshot as his business card and letterhead.
JUST SAYIN'http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y5/interficium/spacer.gif
I FUCKING HATE YOU
JUST SAYIN'
<3
EDIT: Alternatively, he could use a NiN music video screenshot as his business card and letterhead.
wEstSidE
02-26-07, 11:52 PM
look at all the trust fund rockers now. it's bullshit.
he's grimey grimey crimey crimey just cause he lives on the bowery and part of irak?
i bet he hasn't stolen a piece of gum before.
i'm not going to knock the "lifestyle" or whatever, but it's stupid to front.
he's grimey grimey crimey crimey just cause he lives on the bowery and part of irak?
i bet he hasn't stolen a piece of gum before.
i'm not going to knock the "lifestyle" or whatever, but it's stupid to front.
StuckOnStupid
02-26-07, 11:59 PM
as someone who appreciates the destructive/illegal/ruining of property side of grafitti more than big colorful legal walls by washed up sellouts, i really like the whole IRAK thing of getting up, and i dunno about since he turned amish, but sace's shit is still all over the LES.
and as far as his other art shit goes, i love the polaroids. not because im shocked and appalled by the content, but more for the fact of ive engaged in 90% of the activity depicted in them, i understand the beauty and humanity in self-destruction and how lucky you are to escape from it alive, and the fact that there are a few people every so often that document it in a cool way is wonderful. the fact that he is rich and priviledged gets a big fucking whoop from me. Being wealthy does not necessarily negate talent or authenticity or make you a cultural diletante. if i had some kind of finacial backing to fall on id live a much different lifestyle than the one im forced to live on now. why not jizz all over the paper? fuck it, dude prolly lives the life most of us wish we could. hes having fun. ultimately, thats what we all want, no?
also i really dig colen and mcginley's work too. colen is fucking phenomenal, actually.
and as far as his other art shit goes, i love the polaroids. not because im shocked and appalled by the content, but more for the fact of ive engaged in 90% of the activity depicted in them, i understand the beauty and humanity in self-destruction and how lucky you are to escape from it alive, and the fact that there are a few people every so often that document it in a cool way is wonderful. the fact that he is rich and priviledged gets a big fucking whoop from me. Being wealthy does not necessarily negate talent or authenticity or make you a cultural diletante. if i had some kind of finacial backing to fall on id live a much different lifestyle than the one im forced to live on now. why not jizz all over the paper? fuck it, dude prolly lives the life most of us wish we could. hes having fun. ultimately, thats what we all want, no?
also i really dig colen and mcginley's work too. colen is fucking phenomenal, actually.
StuckOnStupid
02-27-07, 12:03 AM
Someone making a digital C-print doesn't hate technology. Now, I could see some merit in that statement if he stuck to the original polaroid as a medium; ie one-offs, but making copies in a digital format, and subsequently knocking 'photography' and 'technology' just reeks of self-concious anti-ness. Weak.
Dash Snow: Hey, here's $100/$200/$300, do something fucked up and act like you don't notice the camera.
Gutterslut: OK
i know THAT sounded way better in yr head.
Dash Snow: Hey, here's $100/$200/$300, do something fucked up and act like you don't notice the camera.
Gutterslut: OK
i know THAT sounded way better in yr head.
RAISED BY WOLVES
02-27-07, 12:06 AM
look at all the trust fund rockers now. it's bullshit.
he's grimey grimey crimey crimey just cause he lives on the bowery and part of irak?
i bet he hasn't stolen a piece of gum before.
i'm not going to knock the "lifestyle" or whatever, but it's stupid to front.
You know next to nothing of what you speak Westside...
So don't.
he's grimey grimey crimey crimey just cause he lives on the bowery and part of irak?
i bet he hasn't stolen a piece of gum before.
i'm not going to knock the "lifestyle" or whatever, but it's stupid to front.
You know next to nothing of what you speak Westside...
So don't.
onemancult
02-27-07, 12:15 AM
as someone who appreciates the destructive/illegal/ruining of property side of grafitti more than big colorful legal walls by washed up sellouts, i really like the whole IRAK thing of getting up, and i dunno about since he turned amish, but sace's shit is still all over the LES.
and as far as his other art shit goes, i love the polaroids. not because im shocked and appalled by the content, but more for the fact of ive engaged in 90% of the activity depicted in them, i understand the beauty and humanity in self-destruction and how lucky you are to escape from it alive, and the fact that there are a few people every so often that document it in a cool way is wonderful. the fact that he is rich and priviledged gets a big fucking whoop from me. Being wealthy does not necessarily negate talent or authenticity or make you a cultural diletante. if i had some kind of finacial backing to fall on id live a much different lifestyle than the one im forced to live on now. why not jizz all over the paper? fuck it, dude prolly lives the life most of us wish we could. hes having fun. ultimately, thats what we all want, no?
being wealthy doesn't negate talent, authenticity, nor make you a cultural dilettante, but it also doesn't help the situation.
and, the fact is that yes, anyone who was wealthy and had those sorts of destructive predilections would go for it, but the fact that it is that safety cushion of piles and piles of cash that protects them from the real, truly human and beautiful horror of leading a destructive lifestyle that negates some of their integrity. not all, mind you, because living it is more than half the battle, but Dash knows in the back of his head that he has a safety net.
fuck, do i ever want a safety net.
and as far as his other art shit goes, i love the polaroids. not because im shocked and appalled by the content, but more for the fact of ive engaged in 90% of the activity depicted in them, i understand the beauty and humanity in self-destruction and how lucky you are to escape from it alive, and the fact that there are a few people every so often that document it in a cool way is wonderful. the fact that he is rich and priviledged gets a big fucking whoop from me. Being wealthy does not necessarily negate talent or authenticity or make you a cultural diletante. if i had some kind of finacial backing to fall on id live a much different lifestyle than the one im forced to live on now. why not jizz all over the paper? fuck it, dude prolly lives the life most of us wish we could. hes having fun. ultimately, thats what we all want, no?
being wealthy doesn't negate talent, authenticity, nor make you a cultural dilettante, but it also doesn't help the situation.
and, the fact is that yes, anyone who was wealthy and had those sorts of destructive predilections would go for it, but the fact that it is that safety cushion of piles and piles of cash that protects them from the real, truly human and beautiful horror of leading a destructive lifestyle that negates some of their integrity. not all, mind you, because living it is more than half the battle, but Dash knows in the back of his head that he has a safety net.
fuck, do i ever want a safety net.
werdtoyourmoms
02-27-07, 12:18 AM
entertainment =/= art.
whatever. you're wrong.
gah! im sorry i asked. shock value can be done really well and make you say "holy fuck!" or it can miss and make you go " oh look ................. how shocking.........."
i think what's interesting about his work is that it's totally bland.
the writeups on that site are very painful to read.
writeups in general are very painful to read
whatever. you're wrong.
gah! im sorry i asked. shock value can be done really well and make you say "holy fuck!" or it can miss and make you go " oh look ................. how shocking.........."
i think what's interesting about his work is that it's totally bland.
the writeups on that site are very painful to read.
writeups in general are very painful to read
doctorgnar
02-27-07, 12:20 AM
Being wealthy does not necessarily negate talent or authenticity or make you a cultural diletante. if i had some kind of finacial backing to fall on id live a much different lifestyle than the one im forced to live on now. why not jizz all over the paper? fuck it, dude prolly lives the life most of us wish we could. hes having fun. ultimately, thats what we all want, no?
I'm not talking about money or financial backing - everyone has money. That has nothing to do with it.
I'm saying that curators, collectors and gallerists have taken an interest in him because of his name. It is in their best interest to be involved with anyone named Menil.
Also, Dash Snow is not a grafitti artist. He may have once been, but that is not the Dash Snow we are talking about.
I'm not talking about money or financial backing - everyone has money. That has nothing to do with it.
I'm saying that curators, collectors and gallerists have taken an interest in him because of his name. It is in their best interest to be involved with anyone named Menil.
Also, Dash Snow is not a grafitti artist. He may have once been, but that is not the Dash Snow we are talking about.
doctorgnar
02-27-07, 12:24 AM
and, the fact is that yes, anyone who was wealthy and had those sorts of destructive predilections would go for it, but the fact that it is that safety cushion of piles and piles of cash that protects them from the real, truly human and beautiful horror of leading a destructive lifestyle that negates some of their integrity. not all, mind you, because living it is more than half the battle, but Dash knows in the back of his head that he has a safety net.
Yeah, that too.
Yeah, that too.
macuser3of5
02-27-07, 12:38 AM
i know THAT sounded way better in yr head.
Supersecret: I am actually Dash Snow.
Supersecret: I am actually Dash Snow.
StuckOnStupid
02-27-07, 12:48 AM
I'm saying that curators, collectors and gallerists have taken an interest in him because of his name. It is in their best interest to be involved with anyone named Menil.
.
ecch. yr right. point taken.
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ecch. yr right. point taken.
onemancult
02-27-07, 12:54 AM
I'm saying that curators, collectors and gallerists have taken an interest in him because of his name. It is in their best interest to be involved with anyone named Menil.
Also, Dash Snow is not a grafitti artist. He may have once been, but that is not the Dash Snow we are talking about.
These two points are also something that everyone, even that silly chick from
New York Magazine, forgot to touch upon.
A lot of the elite's interest in Dash is the art world pandering to money, the same way it always has since Roman times. This will probably never, ever change: politics and cash flow drive the industry of art, and I sincerely feel sorry for namby-pamby artsy types that get chewed up by the system, because it isn't that hard to realize that very few people in the art world are in it for the love of art.
And, yeah, separating Dash Snow from SACE makes such a huge fucking difference-- it really is like two different people. I remember when I first saw the guy lolling about downtown after not having seen him for awhile, and I thought he was in costume. Then I realized the pixie boots were here to stay. Whatever.
Also, Dash Snow is not a grafitti artist. He may have once been, but that is not the Dash Snow we are talking about.
These two points are also something that everyone, even that silly chick from
New York Magazine, forgot to touch upon.
A lot of the elite's interest in Dash is the art world pandering to money, the same way it always has since Roman times. This will probably never, ever change: politics and cash flow drive the industry of art, and I sincerely feel sorry for namby-pamby artsy types that get chewed up by the system, because it isn't that hard to realize that very few people in the art world are in it for the love of art.
And, yeah, separating Dash Snow from SACE makes such a huge fucking difference-- it really is like two different people. I remember when I first saw the guy lolling about downtown after not having seen him for awhile, and I thought he was in costume. Then I realized the pixie boots were here to stay. Whatever.
StuckOnStupid
02-27-07, 01:00 AM
fuck, do i ever want a safety net.
from me to you, homie.
http://www.toronto.ca/taxitraining/images/safety_net.jpg
from me to you, homie.
http://www.toronto.ca/taxitraining/images/safety_net.jpg
onemancult
02-27-07, 01:42 AM
dude.
if we blow this up and paste dash's face on the family, and Dominique De Menil's on
the guy down low, that we can get Rivington Arms to represent us, too?
if we blow this up and paste dash's face on the family, and Dominique De Menil's on
the guy down low, that we can get Rivington Arms to represent us, too?
artificialsky
02-27-07, 01:49 AM
from an art historical perspective...
the whole dan colen / dash snow downtown is back les revival shit is just young british artists / britart, 2007 version.
you'll notice that the site posted on the first page was hosted by the saatchi gallery, who was of course the dude who bankrolled / legitimized the ybas
the whole dan colen / dash snow downtown is back les revival shit is just young british artists / britart, 2007 version.
you'll notice that the site posted on the first page was hosted by the saatchi gallery, who was of course the dude who bankrolled / legitimized the ybas
StuckOnStupid
02-27-07, 01:54 AM
dude.
if we blow this up and paste dash's face on the family, and Dominique De Menil's on
the guy down low, that we can get Rivington Arms to represent us, too?
if i knew any other computer program besides internet explorer and the one that lets me steal music and naked movies. id be all over this...
if we blow this up and paste dash's face on the family, and Dominique De Menil's on
the guy down low, that we can get Rivington Arms to represent us, too?
if i knew any other computer program besides internet explorer and the one that lets me steal music and naked movies. id be all over this...
notesee
02-27-07, 01:59 AM
Dash Snow: Hey, here's $100/$200/$300, do something fucked up and act like you don't notice the camera.
Gutterslut: OK
Haha .. never thought of it like this, guess I gave the dude more partying credit than is really due.
Gutterslut: OK
Haha .. never thought of it like this, guess I gave the dude more partying credit than is really due.
Crillz
02-27-07, 03:28 AM
whatever. you're wrong.
i think what's interesting about his work is that it's totally bland.
writeups in general are very painful to read
I know you thought that this would be the kind of thing where you could use your superior intellect to make brash disagreements and expect people not to question them but would you care to elaborate on any of your "points" at all?
i think what's interesting about his work is that it's totally bland.
writeups in general are very painful to read
I know you thought that this would be the kind of thing where you could use your superior intellect to make brash disagreements and expect people not to question them but would you care to elaborate on any of your "points" at all?
mlproject
02-27-07, 04:24 AM
entertainment ? art.
that's the most concise response i've seen to this scene. out of this discussion's context i don't think this really holds true, but with these photos, i see the gallery community jumping on them because it allows them to live vicariously through their crazy photos of their goodtimes.
its interesting that everything you read, dash shuns his pedigree and says he never lived off of that, but like you guys are saying, it is kind of a safety net.
who cares really... colen and mcginley are both pretty incredible artists. dash snow is almost 50/50 personality/work. in regards to him hating technology yet having digital outputs of his work, ryan mcginley manages and archives his stuff because he knows dash won't keep proper record. mcginley loves teh c prints.
that's the most concise response i've seen to this scene. out of this discussion's context i don't think this really holds true, but with these photos, i see the gallery community jumping on them because it allows them to live vicariously through their crazy photos of their goodtimes.
its interesting that everything you read, dash shuns his pedigree and says he never lived off of that, but like you guys are saying, it is kind of a safety net.
who cares really... colen and mcginley are both pretty incredible artists. dash snow is almost 50/50 personality/work. in regards to him hating technology yet having digital outputs of his work, ryan mcginley manages and archives his stuff because he knows dash won't keep proper record. mcginley loves teh c prints.
eastcoastrider27
02-27-07, 04:51 AM
First off, I don't know Dash Snow personally, so I'm not going to comment on him as a human, other than that I've heard he's a nice guy.
Secondly, he is/was a member of IRAK and those guys did some wild things in addition to bombing NYC. You can't question the legitimacy of Snow as a writer, shoplifter, and downtown icon. He crushed NYC, and a lot of his shit is still running today. Additionally, he and Earsnot put etching on the map downtown. Most importantly, or rather significantly, he bombed the Brooklyn Bridge which is epic.
As far as his "actual art" goes, it's whatever. Take it or leave it. Love it or hate it. I don't think you can question his integrity just cause he's from the de Menil family. It's not like he uses it to his advantage. And it's not like he's going around dropping that name. If anything, he's tried to distance himself from that lineage to make a name for himself.
The Levy article, which I'm sure a lot (most) of you gained your knowledge of Snow through, was wack. It made Snow look like a fool and Colen/McGinley look like "legitimate artists". I'm not saying you should love his art, because I'm not that into myself. But I don't think you can question his credibility or heart.
Secondly, he is/was a member of IRAK and those guys did some wild things in addition to bombing NYC. You can't question the legitimacy of Snow as a writer, shoplifter, and downtown icon. He crushed NYC, and a lot of his shit is still running today. Additionally, he and Earsnot put etching on the map downtown. Most importantly, or rather significantly, he bombed the Brooklyn Bridge which is epic.
As far as his "actual art" goes, it's whatever. Take it or leave it. Love it or hate it. I don't think you can question his integrity just cause he's from the de Menil family. It's not like he uses it to his advantage. And it's not like he's going around dropping that name. If anything, he's tried to distance himself from that lineage to make a name for himself.
The Levy article, which I'm sure a lot (most) of you gained your knowledge of Snow through, was wack. It made Snow look like a fool and Colen/McGinley look like "legitimate artists". I'm not saying you should love his art, because I'm not that into myself. But I don't think you can question his credibility or heart.
doctorgnar
02-27-07, 05:10 AM
First off, I don't know Dash Snow personally, so I'm not going to comment on him as a human, other than that I've heard he's a nice guy. I don't think anyone has the right to
Secondly, he is/was a member of IRAK and those guys did some wild things in addition to bombing NYC. You can't question the legitimacy of Snow as a writer, shoplifter, and downtown icon. He crushed NYC, and a lot of his shit is still running today. Additionally, he and Earsnot put etching on the map downtown. Most importantly, or rather significantly, he bombed the Brooklyn Bridge which is epic.
As far as his "actual art" goes, it's whatever. Take it or leave it. Love it or hate it. I don't think you can question his integrity just cause he's from the de Menil family. It's not like he uses it to his advantage. And it's not like he's going around dropping that name. If anything, he's tried to distance himself from that lineage to make a name for himself.
The Levy article, which I'm sure a lot (most) of you gained your knowledge of Snow through, was wack. It made Snow look like a fool and Colen/McGinley look like "legitimate artists". I'm not saying you should love his art, because I'm not that into myself. But I don't think you can question his credibility or heart.
I think that what Dash Snow did with IRAK is very different from what he is doing today as an artist. I don't believe that any of the work he has shown lately reflects his past as a graf writer, etc. And his work with IRAK is not what got him into the Whitney Biennial.
And whether or not he is using his family to his advantage is not up to him – the point is that people know. He may try to distance himself from his family, and he may not be intentionally affecting his career because of it but he cannot escape who he is and that people are interested in him because he is a de Menil. It has helped forward his career – and may be the main reason he got to where he is today.
I think that most people in the art world would agree that the most interesting thing about Dash Snow is that he is a member of the de Menil family.
If he was serious about denouncing his name – then why is he making art?
And yeah, I've never met him, but I 've heard that he is a really nice guy.
Secondly, he is/was a member of IRAK and those guys did some wild things in addition to bombing NYC. You can't question the legitimacy of Snow as a writer, shoplifter, and downtown icon. He crushed NYC, and a lot of his shit is still running today. Additionally, he and Earsnot put etching on the map downtown. Most importantly, or rather significantly, he bombed the Brooklyn Bridge which is epic.
As far as his "actual art" goes, it's whatever. Take it or leave it. Love it or hate it. I don't think you can question his integrity just cause he's from the de Menil family. It's not like he uses it to his advantage. And it's not like he's going around dropping that name. If anything, he's tried to distance himself from that lineage to make a name for himself.
The Levy article, which I'm sure a lot (most) of you gained your knowledge of Snow through, was wack. It made Snow look like a fool and Colen/McGinley look like "legitimate artists". I'm not saying you should love his art, because I'm not that into myself. But I don't think you can question his credibility or heart.
I think that what Dash Snow did with IRAK is very different from what he is doing today as an artist. I don't believe that any of the work he has shown lately reflects his past as a graf writer, etc. And his work with IRAK is not what got him into the Whitney Biennial.
And whether or not he is using his family to his advantage is not up to him – the point is that people know. He may try to distance himself from his family, and he may not be intentionally affecting his career because of it but he cannot escape who he is and that people are interested in him because he is a de Menil. It has helped forward his career – and may be the main reason he got to where he is today.
I think that most people in the art world would agree that the most interesting thing about Dash Snow is that he is a member of the de Menil family.
If he was serious about denouncing his name – then why is he making art?
And yeah, I've never met him, but I 've heard that he is a really nice guy.
lms
02-27-07, 06:37 AM
Can someone point me towards more interesting works Dash Snow has done? While I enjoy McGinley's photographs, they're not much different than the Dos & Don'ts section of Vice magazine. I can't get over the feeling that the Dash Snow and his entourage is nothing more than a PR campaign marketing the aimless trust fund hipster lifestyle to aging rich people who want to buy an identity and feel a connection to today's hip youth.
Selegna
02-27-07, 07:10 AM
woah i learned a lot about dash from this.. (i never really looked into him)
i thought he was just some lucky coked out NYC cat with a camera.
fuck.. i wish i came from oil wealth.
i thought he was just some lucky coked out NYC cat with a camera.
fuck.. i wish i came from oil wealth.
artificialsky
02-27-07, 07:14 AM
woah i learned a lot about dash from this.. (i never really looked into him)
i thought he was just some lucky coked out NYC cat with a camera.
fuck.. i wish i came from oil wealth.
ISN'T BEING A SUFU LEGEND ENOUGH?! FUCK YOU'RE GREEDY....
i thought he was just some lucky coked out NYC cat with a camera.
fuck.. i wish i came from oil wealth.
ISN'T BEING A SUFU LEGEND ENOUGH?! FUCK YOU'RE GREEDY....
onemancult
02-27-07, 07:15 AM
Dash is an interminably nice guy the very few times I have come across him or been in the same place and seen him interact with others, and I'd never want to give the impression otherwise because that is taking things to a whole other level.
I still have to agree with DocGnar, though, because what went down when Dash was still tagging is like a world away from what Mr. Snow, gallery artist seems to be about. I say 'seems to be', because Dash has gone a little bit insane, not in a crazy woo-ha graf way, but in a, I think the police are bugging my phone and I'm fond of disappearing for days at a time crazy. And that makes it difficult to peg him down.
And yeah, the Levy article was a pile of fucking garbage that tore Dash down simply for his being the way he is, and gave Ryan and Dan all the play in the universe. Totally to be expected from NY Mag, though.
By the by, does anyone up here in the Northeast read The Journal magazine? Have you picked up the recent issue, Dash is the feature article, and it comes packaged with an extra 'zine of his more recent photography.
I still have to agree with DocGnar, though, because what went down when Dash was still tagging is like a world away from what Mr. Snow, gallery artist seems to be about. I say 'seems to be', because Dash has gone a little bit insane, not in a crazy woo-ha graf way, but in a, I think the police are bugging my phone and I'm fond of disappearing for days at a time crazy. And that makes it difficult to peg him down.
And yeah, the Levy article was a pile of fucking garbage that tore Dash down simply for his being the way he is, and gave Ryan and Dan all the play in the universe. Totally to be expected from NY Mag, though.
By the by, does anyone up here in the Northeast read The Journal magazine? Have you picked up the recent issue, Dash is the feature article, and it comes packaged with an extra 'zine of his more recent photography.
eastcoastrider27
02-27-07, 07:38 AM
For what it's worth, I don't think the photos on the tiny vices website were meant to be "art". I think he just snapped pics that happened to reflect the lifestyle he was living. I could be wrong though.
And while Snow might be paranoid about police or whatever, perhaps that's justified by past experiences and his graffiti roots. I certainly would want to be as unknown and elusive as possible if I bombed as much as him. (I also think the Levy article made him out to be more crazy than he is. Even still what person who has inhaled copious amounts of aeresol paint and acid etch bath fumes isn't a little bit crazy?)
Whatever though. I'm no artist or art critic so I don't really have much to say on this matter, other than that Sace was a prolific bomber.
BTW, isn't Dan Colen really fucking tall and skinny? I think I've seen him around the L.E.S. on a few occasions.
And while Snow might be paranoid about police or whatever, perhaps that's justified by past experiences and his graffiti roots. I certainly would want to be as unknown and elusive as possible if I bombed as much as him. (I also think the Levy article made him out to be more crazy than he is. Even still what person who has inhaled copious amounts of aeresol paint and acid etch bath fumes isn't a little bit crazy?)
Whatever though. I'm no artist or art critic so I don't really have much to say on this matter, other than that Sace was a prolific bomber.
BTW, isn't Dan Colen really fucking tall and skinny? I think I've seen him around the L.E.S. on a few occasions.
onemancult
02-27-07, 07:43 AM
And while Snow might be paranoid about police or whatever, perhaps that's justified by past experiences and his graffiti roots. I certainly would want to be as unknown and elusive as possible if I bombed as much as him. (I also think the Levy article made him out to be more crazy than he is. Even still what person who has inhaled copious amounts of aeresol paint and acid etch bath fumes isn't a little bit crazy?)
Yeah, the tiny vices stuff is definitely just meant to be taken at face value... people always use that as like a starting point for checking out the whole downtown art scene and that's stupid. It's not a textbook.
as far as Dash being insane, i'm not even thinking of the Levy article, i'm just thinking of personal anecdotes i've heard from people. i guess someone who has inhaled a shit ton of fumes, among lots of other stuff, is pretty much destined for a little out-there-ness, but who knows.
Yeah, the tiny vices stuff is definitely just meant to be taken at face value... people always use that as like a starting point for checking out the whole downtown art scene and that's stupid. It's not a textbook.
as far as Dash being insane, i'm not even thinking of the Levy article, i'm just thinking of personal anecdotes i've heard from people. i guess someone who has inhaled a shit ton of fumes, among lots of other stuff, is pretty much destined for a little out-there-ness, but who knows.
mlproject
02-27-07, 08:02 AM
all that stuff kind of builds his legend, but you can never take that kind of stuff as a snapshot of someone's personality.
wEstSidE
02-27-07, 12:34 PM
http://gawker.com/news/dash-snow/dash-snows-coke-on-ebay-new-frontier-in-digital-art-238561.php
i'm surprised this hasn't come up.
i'm surprised this hasn't come up.
NESK
02-27-07, 02:59 PM
im pretty sure his fmaily's name might have something to do with him getting away with bombing the brooklyn bridge. if your an imfamous writer, that shit doesnt fly unless you have a get out of jail free card.
or maybe im wrong and he did an overnight before they slapped him on the wrist. i never knew of this guy until this thread, but i was aware of sace. but all the respect i had for sace is now suspect since it appears he was "slumming" when he was bombing. graf is pointless without danger, and if you come from where he comes from, the danger is gone. you can make a phonecall to make all your problems go away. theres no risk involved.
or maybe im wrong and he did an overnight before they slapped him on the wrist. i never knew of this guy until this thread, but i was aware of sace. but all the respect i had for sace is now suspect since it appears he was "slumming" when he was bombing. graf is pointless without danger, and if you come from where he comes from, the danger is gone. you can make a phonecall to make all your problems go away. theres no risk involved.
RAISED BY WOLVES
02-27-07, 09:20 PM
As much as I want to "play", I'm gonna sit on the sidelines for this one.
doctorgnar
02-27-07, 09:27 PM
As much as I want to "play", I'm gonna sit on the sidelines for this one.
Why, RBW? I always look forward to your input.
Are you really Dash Snow?
Why, RBW? I always look forward to your input.
Are you really Dash Snow?
beroldsky
02-27-07, 09:33 PM
Can someone point me towards more interesting works Dash Snow has done? While I enjoy McGinley's photographs, they're not much different than the Dos & Don'ts section of Vice magazine. I can't get over the feeling that the Dash Snow and his entourage is nothing more than a PR campaign marketing the aimless trust fund hipster lifestyle to aging rich people who want to buy an identity and feel a connection to today's hip youth.
dude Mcginleys stuff is quite alot different from DO and Don'ts, and him and colen came from normal familys only Dash came from mega wealth wich apprently he has seen none of . Get yah facts str8t !!
dude Mcginleys stuff is quite alot different from DO and Don'ts, and him and colen came from normal familys only Dash came from mega wealth wich apprently he has seen none of . Get yah facts str8t !!
mlproject
02-28-07, 02:07 AM
http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.ListAll&friendID=5776338&MyToken=4c153b08-1902-4632-94bb-89c2786c77c2ML
good blog from that girl that works at dietch i mentioned before. aurel schmidt looking fucking angry.
good blog from that girl that works at dietch i mentioned before. aurel schmidt looking fucking angry.
Larry Bird
02-28-07, 03:42 PM
^^^^^^^
awesome, da vizie naked in the snow....come back home nekst and viz, we miss you guys.
awesome, da vizie naked in the snow....come back home nekst and viz, we miss you guys.
champagne_bubblebath
03-01-07, 01:07 AM
As much as I want to "play", I'm gonna sit on the sidelines for this one.
isn't he bangin one of the olsen twins.
isn't he bangin one of the olsen twins.
mass
03-01-07, 01:46 AM
wtf?
i don't have anything to say about mcginly except no homo.
hahahahaha.
i don't have anything to say about mcginly except no homo.
hahahahaha.
mlproject
03-01-07, 02:15 AM
NOT dash snow.
http://alifenyc.com/alifenycimages/MYSPACE/mary_katemax.jpg
sweet-16's not 18 yet...
http://alifenyc.com/alifenycimages/MYSPACE/NEWJUMP.jpg
http://alifenyc.com/alifenycimages/MYSPACE/mary_katemax.jpg
sweet-16's not 18 yet...
http://alifenyc.com/alifenycimages/MYSPACE/NEWJUMP.jpg
sean_
03-01-07, 04:20 AM
motherfucker, i love the olsen twins
onemancult
03-01-07, 06:22 AM
i wouldn't question this otherwise, because i love miss 16, but why is she here, and why didn't you use that topless picture of her that MOB posted to their blog a while ago?
mlproject
03-01-07, 08:45 AM
because she's 16 and what her and tabatha do is none of my bidness. leah is on fire though. i grabbed that pic off alife's myspace because i didn't know where else to find that shot of mary kate
onemancult
03-01-07, 08:51 AM
are you saying i'm wrong, at 21 years old, for having small innocent crushes on
a 17 and 15 year old?
'cause i already know i am, thanks. :D
a 17 and 15 year old?
'cause i already know i am, thanks. :D
notesee
03-01-07, 09:27 AM
NOT dash snow.
Nope, it ain't Dash Snow, but it is his brother Max Snow.
Nope, it ain't Dash Snow, but it is his brother Max Snow.
mlproject
03-01-07, 12:51 PM
^
^
as long as you know what's right and wrong haha.
^
as long as you know what's right and wrong haha.
Selegna
03-01-07, 01:27 PM
Nope, it ain't Dash Snow, but it is his brother Max Snow.
foreaallllzzz? hah
3 pages of Dash is enough.. fools already talking about alife and futura's kids and shit.
foreaallllzzz? hah
3 pages of Dash is enough.. fools already talking about alife and futura's kids and shit.
thelion1856
03-02-07, 10:47 AM
i dont know this dudes history but based on just the pictures i saw of his, he looks like a fucking looser to me. (unless of course he emails me some coke.)
eastcoastrider27
03-02-07, 11:00 AM
looser than what?
onemancult
03-02-07, 11:03 AM
looser than what?
than earsnot's anus.
than earsnot's anus.
wEstSidE
03-02-07, 12:10 PM
...i would hate on earsnot too, but he is big black and scary. might forcibly take my butt.
onemancult
03-02-07, 12:13 PM
haha, i don't hate on ace boon koon no poon at all, he's a good dude.
Brad Pitt
03-02-07, 07:16 PM
Back when he used to bomb hard, the few times I ran into him he was a really chill dude, would always show mad love. Being a fan at the time that was just really cool. Nothin' but respect.
keagan
03-02-07, 10:21 PM
Wait, what does he write as? Dash? Snow?
Surely he doesn't write "dash snow".
Surely he doesn't write "dash snow".
Larry Bird
03-02-07, 11:01 PM
^^^^
Abortion Ringtoss
Abortion Ringtoss
onemancult
03-02-07, 11:05 PM
^^^^
Abortion Ringtoss
HAHAHAHA yep.
Abortion Ringtoss
HAHAHAHA yep.
notesee
03-03-07, 09:19 AM
foreaallllzzz? hah
Yessir, younger Snow wilin' in the streets too.
Yessir, younger Snow wilin' in the streets too.
aphex twin
02-02-09, 03:39 AM
What do you guys think of the artist Dash Snow? How much do his photographs and artwork sell for?
FunkyFrenchy
02-02-09, 05:11 AM
i do know that he does a shit load of stuff for purple...
keagan
02-02-09, 02:07 PM
is in hands of thee multicoloured wayfarers wearing hipster
sean_
02-02-09, 03:18 PM
how much art can you take
aphex twin
02-03-09, 12:21 AM
how much art can you take
I can take a lot. Bring it
I can take a lot. Bring it
Yardbird
02-05-09, 02:17 AM
how much art can you take
SSD. If I could rep I would.
pathetic.
SSD. If I could rep I would.
pathetic.
sidneylo
02-05-09, 02:19 AM
What do you guys think of the artist Dash Snow? How much do his photographs and artwork sell for?
Read the seven page editorial about him on the New York Times.
This thread blows semen wads.
Read the seven page editorial about him on the New York Times.
This thread blows semen wads.
aphex twin
02-06-09, 05:17 AM
Read the seven page editorial about him on the New York Times.
This thread blows semen wads.
link please?
This thread blows semen wads.
link please?
sidneylo
02-06-09, 05:43 AM
My mistake it was New York mag.
notesee
02-07-09, 12:22 AM
It's fucked that Kez and Les stay going over his old work. Dude is pretty much outta the game, let it be. Plus I think he could pound on Kez's junkie ass if they ever had a run in.
Thought I spotted a few new handies in Soho though, can anyone confirm?
Thought I spotted a few new handies in Soho though, can anyone confirm?
aphex twin
02-10-09, 07:44 AM
I found this online: http://www.amazon.com/Dash-Snow-Spoiled-Perfect-Asshole/dp/0977881997/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1234230431&sr=8-1
Anyone know how much his photos cost? I want to buy a couple.
Anyone know how much his photos cost? I want to buy a couple.
kiya
02-12-09, 06:36 AM
I found this online: http://www.amazon.com/Dash-Snow-Spoiled-Perfect-Asshole/dp/0977881997/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1234230431&sr=8-1
Anyone know how much his photos cost? I want to buy a couple.
I have this and will trade you for a mint copy of AB2, original pressing only.
Anyone know how much his photos cost? I want to buy a couple.
I have this and will trade you for a mint copy of AB2, original pressing only.
polishmike
02-12-09, 06:42 AM
i know old lame jewish ladies who buy his photos/art, thinking it might make them hip or something.
prebellum
07-20-09, 12:40 AM
whoa. No one has posted on this in over 2 years. Weird. Looking for video interviews or something from Dash.....anyone? RIP
ProfMonnitoff
07-20-09, 12:44 AM
theres a small thing on olivier zahm's blog, but i dont really think dash was into giving interviews
prebellum
07-20-09, 12:55 AM
yeah, saw that one...good for what it was i guess. Just figured with the vast amount Dan Colen loves being in front of the camera maybe it ran off on Dash a little. So where did he live? Les?
NESK
07-26-09, 03:05 AM
i find it real hard to accept his death as evenly mildly tragic/unexpected/early.
the whole draw to his art was that it was brash and dangerous and kind of hinted at the fact that it was on the cusp of ending at any moment. his death is more of a bookend to his aesthetic than a sudden halt.
i love that he is sace, and his other work i can take or leave. i get why his freinds and family would find this tragic, but the art world just kind of got what they asked for here. you want to be a voyeur into reckless abandonment and live vicariously through someone who doesnt think the parties ever gonna end, but then act suprised when it comes crashing down? come on.
the whole draw to his art was that it was brash and dangerous and kind of hinted at the fact that it was on the cusp of ending at any moment. his death is more of a bookend to his aesthetic than a sudden halt.
i love that he is sace, and his other work i can take or leave. i get why his freinds and family would find this tragic, but the art world just kind of got what they asked for here. you want to be a voyeur into reckless abandonment and live vicariously through someone who doesnt think the parties ever gonna end, but then act suprised when it comes crashing down? come on.
Vinneus
08-10-09, 10:56 AM
...memorial at deitch projects was good. runs all month. RIP
Hocus Pocus
08-10-09, 02:08 PM
This was a really entertaining thread.
sean_
08-17-09, 11:54 AM
you want to be a voyeur into reckless abandonment and live vicariously through someone who doesnt think the parties ever gonna end, but then act suprised when it comes crashing down? come on.
basically, this
basically, this
Vampyrvargfesten
08-17-09, 12:18 PM
i want to see his complete, unabridged collection of polaroids
too bad they will never surface :(
too bad they will never surface :(
NESK
08-24-09, 03:24 AM
half of them are of my dick, ill send you the updated version if you paypal me $8000
Vampyrvargfesten
09-02-09, 03:26 AM
gimme those polaroids!! :mad:
http://tno-mag.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/dash-snow.jpg
ALSO,,... that Shell station "hell" shot... so good :)
http://tno-mag.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/dash-snow.jpg
ALSO,,... that Shell station "hell" shot... so good :)
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